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re: How can he say this stuff with a straight face?

Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:42 am to
Posted by texastigerr
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:42 am to
Yes he is. We were not balanced. But when you can't run the ball, you can't keep trying to run it. You have to make them defend the whole field. We never did that and we don't do that. Alabama only had to be concerned with defending from tackle to tackle. There was never any real attempt to spread their defense out to so that they would have to defend sideline to sideline.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:47 am to
We just got our butts whipped. Again. Accept that we are not better than Bama and it'll make it better for you.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:48 am to
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What is their percentage of pass on the season?


About 42%.


Thanks. Any break down on their run-pass percentages before they are just milking the clock?

For example, against A&M they ran 5 consecutive running plays at the end of the game to just kill the clock. Against LSU they ran the ball on 14 of their last 16 plays as they were up 20 and 14 points at the time.

Kind of skews the percentages, don't ya think?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:49 am to
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Any break down on their run-pass percentages before they are just milking the clock?

Kind of skews the percentages, don't ya think?


can we do this for LSU as well...

only fair right?
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:51 am to
they threw it 19 times, harris is just a below average qb

bottom line

He throws a nice deep ball but that's about it...He won't march us down the field in under 2 min to win a game, blee dat
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:54 am to
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can we do this for LSU as well...

only fair right?


Sure, we just got skull drug all over that field last Saturday. We were trailing every time we started a drive from the 11:28 mark of the 2nd quarter through the rest of the game. Even facing a deficit for 3 quarters of the game, we still only called passes on, what was it 47% of the plays?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:57 am to
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Even facing a deficit for 3 quarters of the game, we still only called passes on, what was it 47% of the plays?


what percentage was the play calling once LSU went down 20-10 in the 3rd quarter?

I don't care about the 1st half since it was only 13-10 and that isn't enough of a deficit to change the gameplan
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31139 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:04 am to
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“We want to get to 50/50 football.


stopped reading here. that is an outright lie.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:06 am to
To me a balanced offense isn't simply a 50/50 ratio of all downs regardless of situation or down and distance.

If it's 3rd and 10 and we pass sure it's a pass play but does it truly achieve balance--at least in terms of being predictable or unpredictable?? If the D can run out a nickel package and the DL can ignore the run and get up field to the passer?

To me what balance is--is the plays run on neutral downs (1st and 10, 2nd and 5 or less. 3rd and 3) --downs where the D can't predict the call based on situation and down and distance.

It's these downs where you are more likely to get an "honest D" where balanced is achieved.

Truth is even with a Heisman candidate back who needs and deserves touches, we could be more unpredictable esp on 1st down.

That said Harris tossed the INT on first down. That is just one example though.

Regardless we need to be more effective in the passing game no matter how much or when it's called.

Hope we will be over the remainder of the season.
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5153 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:09 am to
harris is below average

Miles proly would love to throw it more, but would you with a qb with the talent level of Harris

I loved what Kiffin did to protect Coker in that game...Several short passes, etc...No reason Cam can't do that with Harris...O wait, he tried, what happened...Int first play of the second half
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:09 am to
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To me a balanced offense isn't simply a 50/50 ratio of all downs regardless of situation or down and distance.
I think the issue everybody seems to tap-dancing around is how predictable this team has become. Any stats on 1st down passes?? 2nd down?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:10 am to
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Any stats on 1st down passes?? 2nd down?


we pass a lot on first down

2nd down is the down that we rarely pass on
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64470 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:12 am to
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what percentage was the play calling once LSU went down 20-10 in the 3rd quarter?



First drive, down 20-10: 3 run, 3 pass
Second drive, down 20-10: 2 run, 1 pass
Third drive, down 27-10: 1 run (2nd and 15 for 1 yard), 2 pass
Fourth drive, down 30-10: 0 run, 4 pass
Fifth drive, down 30-10: 4 run (td), 1 pass


10 runs, 11 passes after falling behind between 10-20 points in the second half.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33138 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:12 am to
The % number of passes vs. runs of course is not the argument. Anyone can throw a bunch of passes (screens, low % completions, and the like) to skew the results.

The problem and Miles knows this but won't come clean on it, is the TYPES of passes that are being thrown, and the SITUATIONS they are being thrown in.

Asking a sophomore QB with little game experience, and hardly any experience throwing the ball (because they don't use the easy games to work on the passing game) to all of sudden complete low percentage deep balls against an elite defense in the biggest game of the year in predictable down and distance situations is utterly stupid, and he knows this but continues to do it.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:17 am to
thanks

I don't see any major critique just by looking at those numbers either

falling down 20-10 that early in the 3rd quarter, I still wouldn't change the game plan

Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:19 am to
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alling down 20-10 that early in the 3rd quarter, I still wouldn't change the game plan


8 straight games of averaging 13 points a game, 6 straight games with never scoring more than 17 points... I think I'd try something different.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:21 am to
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First drive, down 20-10: 3 run, 3 pass
Second drive, down 20-10: 2 run, 1 pass
Third drive, down 27-10: 1 run (2nd and 15 for 1 yard), 2 pass
Fourth drive, down 30-10: 0 run, 4 pass
Fifth drive, down 30-10: 4 run (td), 1 pass


10 runs, 11 passes after falling behind between 10-20 points in the second half.
Now that we know what the results were, this is a sign of uncreative play calling. Where has deception and mis-direction gone?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:23 am to
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42% passing is just under 50%...


3x the offense passing than running
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:24 am to
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I think I'd try something different.


one would think, right? maybe last year gave Miles false hope?

maybe next year we see LSU come out 5 wide against Bama...
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:27 am to
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maybe last year gave Miles false hope?


One could excuse last year's run heavy offense based on the circumstances. Unfortunately that 2014 season hasn't been much different than many of the rest. Miles is still trying to beat Bama 9-6.
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