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how can everyone blame the Q B?
Posted on 10/11/09 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 10/11/09 at 5:54 pm
the staff protects him so well he doesn't do anything. of course, we don't get to score with that philosophy, but hey! you can't have everything!
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 5:56 pm to stephendomalley
First, the more football knowledgeable posters aren't blaming the QB. Many posters have it exactly right. The OL is poor as proven by run and pass blocking and Crowton is doing an F caliber grade of compensating for LSU weakness in the OL. Jefferson definitely causes some of the sacks himself but when 5 OL can't block 3 DL for 3 seconds....not Jefferson's fault.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 5:56 pm to stephendomalley
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how can everyone blame the Q B?
some have been calling for JJJ to get benched and now they are showing their asses
Posted on 10/11/09 at 5:57 pm to stephendomalley
... because idiots always blame the quarterback before anyone else. The head coach comes next.
Nevermind the fact that the offensive line still looks like a revolving door that lets defenders into the backfield so easily that the quarterback doesn't have time to throw and the running back can't even make it back to the line of scrimage.
Jefferson is in his first year of starting. He's going to hold onto the ball longer than he should because he couldn't possibly be comfortable yet. People need to realize this.
Nevermind the fact that the offensive line still looks like a revolving door that lets defenders into the backfield so easily that the quarterback doesn't have time to throw and the running back can't even make it back to the line of scrimage.
Jefferson is in his first year of starting. He's going to hold onto the ball longer than he should because he couldn't possibly be comfortable yet. People need to realize this.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:01 pm to stephendomalley
I blame the coach for playing the QB who doesn't know when to get rid of the football under pressure, when to pitch on the option and whom the coach doesn't have confidence in to throw downfield or open up the playbook. How's that?
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:06 pm to chilge1
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evermind the fact that the offensive line still looks like a revolving door that lets defenders into the backfield so easily that the quarterback doesn't have time to throw and the running back can't even make it back to the line of scrimage.
JJ's been sacked 11 times in the past 2 games, and at least 8 of those sacks are solely on him where he had 3-4 seconds to throw, has no idea how to move in the pocket, and drops back 12 yards until he basically runs into a defender.
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Jefferson is in his first year of starting. He's going to hold onto the ball longer than he should because he couldn't possibly be comfortable yet. People need to realize this.
Well, all of this is causing our offense to not be able to movee the ball at all. So, if you're ok with having zero offense, so be it.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:06 pm to LSU82BILL
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I blame the coach for playing the QB who doesn't know when to get rid of the football under pressure, when to pitch on the option and whom the coach doesn't have confidence in to throw downfield or open up the playbook. How's that?
Not really a good understanding. Better to take a sack than throwing a pick 6. And the problem on the option is not Jefferson....because when a guy isn't running that play well, you know what...you ditch the play. And the reason LSU doesn't throw downfield more is the OL is like a matador blocking unit... Ole!! How's that!!!!
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:07 pm to LSU82BILL
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some have been calling for JJJ to get benched and now they are showing their asses
The same group calling for JJ to be benched were the ones last year saying
1. The offensive line was the problem for the pick 6's and the team needed to practice more on stopping interception returns.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:08 pm to stephendomalley
I, sir, blame the coaching staff more than the players.
If I see LSU 3rd and short, I-formation, defense stacks 9 or 10 in a box, handoff up the middle/near tackle and get stuffed one more time I will regurgitate.
If I see LSU 3rd and short, I-formation, defense stacks 9 or 10 in a box, handoff up the middle/near tackle and get stuffed one more time I will regurgitate.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:08 pm to shel311
Nonsense and I definitely don't believe your times, Mr. Timex. Oh, and BTW, if by 3 or 4 seconds you are including Jefferson running for his life before being tackled, that doesn't count as 3 or 4 seconds. Either you or I are watching the wrong game, and I'm pretty sure it is you! Your post is CRAP and a LIE!
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:08 pm to Tomm
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Many posters have it exactly right. The OL is poor
maybe so, but Jefferson makes them look even worse.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:09 pm to Tomm
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First, the more football knowledgeable posters aren't blaming the QB. Many posters have it exactly right. The OL is poor as proven by run and pass blocking and Crowton is doing an F caliber grade of compensating for LSU weakness in the OL. Jefferson definitely causes some of the sacks himself but when 5 OL can't block 3 DL for 3 seconds....not Jefferson's fault.
Most of the football knowledgeable posters are blaming Jefferson for magnifying a poor OL. He can't throw a screen and he has NO touch.
He takes 15 yard drops and holds on to the ball for a very-very-long time if his #1 is not open.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:09 pm to cyogi
Well, when you have 6'5 300 pound men on the line you would expect them to be able to get that yard. The offensive line lacks toughness this year.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:10 pm to cyogi
Georgia and Florida didn't stack the box with an incredible number of defenders for the most part. Yes, Vanderbilt and Miss State but these last two haven't.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:10 pm to Elleshoe
Sooooo, you're saying Jefferson isn't Tom Brady? OK!
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:11 pm to bmy
I'll put you officially in the football clueless crowd who knows squat about LSU's problems.
So, I guess you count him running for his life as a "drop"? 
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He takes 15 yard drops and holds on to the ball for a very-very-long time if his #1 is not open.
So, I guess you count him running for his life as a "drop"? This post was edited on 10/11/09 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:12 pm to Tomm
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Sooooo, you're saying Jefferson isn't Tom Brady? OK!
he's indecisive and runs around with like a chicken with his head cut off. Crowton certainly isn't helping with the play calling either
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:12 pm to Tomm
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Not really a good understanding. Better to take a sack than throwing a pick 6. And the problem on the option is not Jefferson....because when a guy isn't running that play well, you know what...you ditch the play. And the reason LSU doesn't throw downfield more is the OL is like a matador blocking unit... Ole!! How's that!!!!
Getting outside the pocket and throwing the ball away is better than taking a sack. When Jefferson makes the pitch BEFORE making the defender whose job is to force the pitch commits, he's not running the play correctly. And I don't know, how about mixing in play where you keep the tight end in or maybe both backs to block once in a while? Do you need to go back and take Remedial Football 101 all over again?
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:13 pm to Tomm
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Nonsense and I definitely don't believe your times, Mr. Timex. Oh, and BTW, if by 3 or 4 seconds you are including Jefferson running for his life before being tackled, that doesn't count as 3 or 4 seconds. Either you or I are watching the wrong game, and I'm pretty sure it is you! Your post is CRAP and a LIE!
We must be watching the same game.
The game I watch shows jefferson dropping back, sitting in the pocket, sitting in the pocket, sitting in the pocket, having ZERO sense of pocket presence, and FINALLY getting sacked instead of getting rid of the ball or tucking and running.
You can claim to see it how you want, that above is how most of his sacks ACTUALLY happen.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 6:13 pm to ready4something
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Well, when you have 6'5 300 pound men on the line you would expect them to be able to get that yard. The offensive line lacks toughness this year.
But it's not working. I would think the coaches would catch on and try to diversify the play calling from time-to-time.... "fake out" the defense.
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