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re: Honest Question about the Les Miles show last night

Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
6191 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:11 pm to
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And then he calls Hanagriff and whines on his show about it.


Wow. I guess i missed all this part.

Driving through Mississippi the station didn't carry Hanagriff.
Posted by pcowhe87098
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
178 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:14 pm to
You're an idiot. Miles owes us fricking nothing. In fact, after how he's been treated, we probably owe him. Just because some fat redneck has sat in the south endzone for twenty five years does not mean Les has to take his suggestions on how to run one of the most competitive football programs over the last decade. We are 10-0, in the midst of an historic season, and this is the type of fake "scandal" you are worrying about????
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31913 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:16 pm to
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Wow. I guess i missed all this part.

Driving through Mississippi the station didn't carry Hanagriff.



He did. Ironically he was the first caller on Hanagriff's show.

If you have an iPhone or can get the ESPN radio app, you can listen to it there.

He did the same thing on Charlie's show. "But I'm a 25 year season ticket holder " sounds like a whiney 4 year old.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:16 pm to
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LSUChicageaux


you have an unusual brain.

using hobo stubs to vote multiple times at miles performance review in the superdome is....well, something that i don't think i'm capable of creating. the hilarity of it is off the charts. you really should be a script writer.
Posted by mdwilkins
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jun 2011
116 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:17 pm to
I have supported Coach Miles since he was hired here and continue to do so, but I am stunned by the Penn State situation. The answer to your question depends upon what you think about the Penn State situation. Was it a culture of "Ask no questions" and "No Accountability" for Paterno because he won so many games? if you answer yes, then you must require the coach to be accountable. That does not mean the fans get to decide who plays.
Unfortunately, I hear a lot of people saying that Miles should not be accountable to anybody because of how many games he has won. That culture, wins = no questions, led to a horrible situation in the formerly Happy Valley.
I think the coach gets to make the decision about who starts, but that accountability trumps wins.
I wish I could have a coach that was honest and did not practice to deceive, but I guess that they don't exist if they ever did.
Consider the last week in Baton Rouge. People around the program spent the week saying that Coach Miles Lied when he said that the decision to start Jefferson was not a disciplinary issue. When people closely associated with the program repeatedly call the coach a liar and the fans cheer, I am sad. I want respect for my school that only comes from achieving greatness with honor.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12500 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

LSUChicageaux


Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23222 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:19 pm to
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I have supported Coach Miles since he was hired here and continue to do so, but I am stunned by the Penn State situation. The answer to your question depends upon what you think about the Penn State situation. Was it a culture of "Ask no questions" and "No Accountability" for Paterno because he won so many games? if you answer yes, then you must require the coach to be accountable. That does not mean the fans get to decide who plays.
Unfortunately, I hear a lot of people saying that Miles should not be accountable to anybody because of how many games he has won. That culture, wins = no questions, led to a horrible situation in the formerly Happy Valley.
I think the coach gets to make the decision about who starts, but that accountability trumps wins.
I wish I could have a coach that was honest and did not practice to deceive, but I guess that they don't exist if they ever did.
Consider the last week in Baton Rouge. People around the program spent the week saying that Coach Miles Lied when he said that the decision to start Jefferson was not a disciplinary issue. When people closely associated with the program repeatedly call the coach a liar and the fans cheer, I am sad. I want respect for my school that only comes from achieving greatness with honor.


How the frick did your dumbass twist that shite into the Penn State situation? Are you Timivous?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:27 pm to
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In regards to the first caller, do feel that Les Miles has the wrong attitude toward the fanbase?


I agree whole heartedly. The way he treated poor Tim was disgraceful. Les should have apologised for the poor season and then invited Tim to visit him in his office to review game plans and help out at practice.
Tim deserved better. He has been a season ticket holder for all those years and every coach before Les has relied on people like Tim to advise them on how the progran should be run.
The guy before Les, whose name can not be spoken, used to be kind and supporting of the fans and media. He ws patient and long suffering; calm and gentle. That's what fans deserve. Why can't Les me more sweet and understanding like that guy was?
I know that Tim is hurting today and I suggest we all join in forming a We Love You Tim support group to help him overcome the trauma resulting from the barbaric fashion he was treated last night.
Tim, We love you man.
Posted by mdwilkins
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jun 2011
116 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:34 pm to
I believe the core of the Penn State problem derives from a culture of wins equals lack of accountability. Every time someone like yourself implies that no one has the right to question the coach, I see that same culture developing right here.
I am no spring chicken and I have always respected coaches. Now I think that maybe we should demand more accountability from our coaches. This is not limited to Coach Miles although I care way more about LSU than any of the other schools.
If you disagree, that is your prerogative. I would hope that you would want to look at what is going on in the world and try to prevent bad things from happening here. I know that this is not a popular stance, and I doubt I would have taken it 30 years ago. I hope you have a better day.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

I believe the core of the Penn State problem derives from a culture of wins equals lack of accountability. Every time someone like yourself implies that no one has the right to question the coach, I see that same culture developing right here.
I am no spring chicken and I have always respected coaches. Now I think that maybe we should demand more accountability from our coaches. This is not limited to Coach Miles although I care way more about LSU than any of the other schools.
If you disagree, that is your prerogative. I would hope that you would want to look at what is going on in the world and try to prevent bad things from happening here. I know that this is not a popular stance, and I doubt I would have taken it 30 years ago. I hope you have a better day.


Ok dispense with all the hand wringing blather. What is your recommendation?
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:46 pm to
Interesting observation,Gray Tiger. I actually ran both Les' original language as well as the version generated by my Lestranslator through my reverse Nickyspeak app and they both produced the identical translation:

"Go f*ck yourself, aight?"
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61230 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:50 pm to
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We are 10-0, in the midst of an historic season, and this is the type of fake "scandal" you are worrying about????


This sums it up very well.
There is a very small but vocal part of our fanbase that just need to shut the hell up. We don't care about their redneck stupid thoughts so they need to quit calling in to the radio shows.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 5:56 pm
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:52 pm to
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Go f*ck yourself, aight?"
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:53 pm to
Mdwilkins

Are you seriously suggesting that accountability with respect to the knowledge of conduct such as sexual molestation of children is somehow connected to whether a coach feels he owes every season ticket holder a justification for his choice of starting lineups? If so, your sense of proportion, if not your rationality, is seriously suspect.
Posted by geaux from largo
Largo, Florida
Member since Oct 2006
2684 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:55 pm to


Yeah, like he has to care about what each and every one of us thinks, all 45 million of us......
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

I believe the core of the Penn State problem derives from a culture of wins equals lack of accountability. Every time someone like yourself implies that no one has the right to question the coach, I see that same culture developing right here.
I am no spring chicken and I have always respected coaches. Now I think that maybe we should demand more accountability from our coaches.


man, don't you think you are taking the les miles question a little too far. you are comparing asking a coach to publicly explain a decision to play a certain player to the revolting culture at penn state allowing children to be molested by a coach and then covering it up. your analogy is comparing things that are in different stratopheres. no one is saying tim doesn't have a right to question coach miles, but challenging him on player decisions is something worth deriding, imo. and no way does that compare to the despicable situation at penn state. sorry, the head coach gets to decide who plays and who doesn't.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 5:59 pm to
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We don't care about their redneck stupid thoughts so they need to quit calling in to the radio shows.


it's a scientific fact that not all people with stupid facts are rednecks. and it's also a scientific fact that not all rednecks' thoughts are stupid. but i think i know what you mean.
Posted by BigerTait
Florida
Member since Dec 2010
173 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 6:01 pm to
This isnt a democracy. Just because fans support the team doesnt give them the authority to help make coaching decisions.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7700 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 6:19 pm to
Fans buying tickets are not entitled to coach the team...all these people that think they know so much need to just sit back and Les and the coach's do what they do best...we are 10-0..what more could you possibly want...in other words..STFU...
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 6:24 pm to
Any coach who "listens to his fanbase" won't be a coach for very long.
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