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re: Here's why this is a colossal fail on the part of Les Miles
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:06 pm to bmy
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:06 pm to bmy
quote:+1
You are absolutely full of shite. Zach Lee had an offer from Alabama. If Lee had signed with Bama and played football you would be bitching at Miles for that too.
Not saying I don't agree with the fact that we shouldn't have put too much stock in lee. But how much of that was miles? How much of it was the fans? Garrett leaving had nothing to do with lee and what people need to understand is that the head coach takes the heat for a lot of things, but they can't control these kids. Y'all act as if we have first pick on whatever players we want. Sorry it doesn't work that way.
The thing is, if you people knew as much as you think you knew, you would all be paid millions to coach. But you're not. Just a bunch of judgmental fricks with a keyboard.
I'm not defending miles in the least (frankly I don't care for him much) but as long as he is a part of LSU my criticism will be as constructive as possible. Shitting on another mans name does nothing for the program. ZL wasn't good enough to build a team around so y'all need to stop treating the rest of our tigers as if they are worthless
I still say 2010 will be a great year in lsu football
This post was edited on 8/17/10 at 2:09 pm
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Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:10 pm to Choctaw
I don't know what he did in highschool....doesn't matter...I'd bet he was up to no good judging by his actions when he had it all in front of him. He had it made, all he had to do was play his game. He chose to foul himself knowing his path and potential...Miles, I'm sure knows more of this than we do and still went down with him.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:14 pm to RBWilliams8
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I still say 2010 will be a great year in lsu football
2010 will be what it is. If we needed ZLee for 2010 we were probably in trouble my concern is for the future. Starting a redshirt freshman in 2012 does not sit well with me. Neither does going the JUCO route.
Problem is those are the only two choices we have now b/c of the decisions Miles has made concerning the recruiting of QBs.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:17 pm to Prodigal Tiger
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And if you don't see this, it's probably because you are just like him. You are the 112 best employe (out of 117) at your office, and you are fine with that. You are certainly not the boss.
Classic....
The ranter manifesto: If you don't think like me you must be a loser in a shite job.
Let me break it to you...most successful people don't think like everyone else. That's why they are successful.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:17 pm to Lee Chatelain
quote:
don't you think it would of been smart to have some sort of backup plan?
Why plan? Just learn from mistakes.
/sarcasm
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:18 pm to ScottieP
Miles' failure isn't isolated to the Zach Lee incident. It's just a part of a larger picture of him not thinking things through, things that the rest of us already know (co-coordinators, not signing kids who will be offered millions not to play).
It's a string of failures that has come about as Miles struggles to find what it takes to lead a big-time football program. How long he will be allowed to learn on our nickel is the question.
It's a string of failures that has come about as Miles struggles to find what it takes to lead a big-time football program. How long he will be allowed to learn on our nickel is the question.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:28 pm to Prodigal Tiger
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The hell you are. Becuase if you were the boss of anyone you would know by now the difference between bullshite and results. bullshite is when you say "but I tried calling and nobody answered," or when you say "I tried, but the other guys in my group are holding me back," or "I tried signing a good quarterback, but no one wanted to play here."
I agree with this. Results are what matters. Why can't we seem to start a quality QB. For the last umpteen years, I've heard, B.S. like, "they've got a Freshman on their roster that is going to be something one of these years..." and it NEVER seems to materialize! Recruit a QB for the QB spot, play him, and be done with this ridiculousness. Results are what matters, and I see nothing but B. S. Half-assedness excuses on the part of Les Miles.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:28 pm to Prodigal Tiger
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Here's why this is a colossal fail on the part of Les Miles
Geeeezus, it never ends with you people. Here's why this is a colossal fail of a post on your part -
Were any of you 'tards in the room/s when any of these conversations were taking place? Were any of you sitting in the homes of these recruits when they were being recruited? I highly doubt it, yet most of you come on here and spew your shite like you're the right hand of God; hearing all and knowing all.
What a fricking joke. And it's quite comical that most of you seem to think that Les Miles and the rest of the staff are just a bunch of hicks sitting around whittling on their teeth.
You sir, and the rest of your ilk, are a bunch of fricking blow-hards that like to stand around and yell out..."look at me!!"..."look at meeeee!!!"
Most of you were probably sitting around your computers all night, keyboard at the ready, waiting for the negative shoe to drop so you can come on here and 'tard out'...knowing full well that NOT ONE of you know the ins and outs of the story OR what Miles may have planned/not planned.
Good luck to Zach Lee and I wish him well. No need to dwell on the subject. Move on and recruit the next one.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:31 pm to mtnhighTiger
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Were any of you 'tards in the room/s when any of these conversations were taking place? Were any of you sitting in the homes of these recruits when they were being recruited? I highly doubt it, yet most of you come on here and spew your shite like you're the right hand of God; hearing all and knowing all.
That sums up pretty much what I said earlier in the thread. Here's the response.
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You every thought that maybe, just maybe, Miles is so secretive and convoluted with everything he says and does because he is insecure about his mental shortcomings that would be exposed if the public/media actually knew all the facts?
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:32 pm to Prodigal Tiger
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No, No, No. That's the point. Learn from your mistakes when you are an assistant at Michigan or the head coach at SW Tech. Be ready to roll when you get to the big time.
Two years ago we saw Miles "learn" that a co-defensive coordinator system doesn't work (the rest of us knew that already). Last year we saw him "learn" how to manage the clock late in games, and now we are seeing him learn how to deal with qb recruits who are 1st round mlb picks.
You may enjoy watching Miles learn and grow before your eyes.
I just want to see him succeed.
All coaches make mistakes. At every level of the game. You're foolish to think otherwise.
Compare our QB situation to Bamas situation at DB. How could the great Saban allow such pathetic arse depth? It's actually a very similar situation.. except their crisis is now, our issue is in 2012 (meaning we still have time to fix it, while they do not).
Results, results, derp derp derp.
This post was edited on 8/17/10 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:34 pm to bmy
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How could the great Saban allow such pathetic arse depth???
Look at his QB depth as well. Hell, look at UF's.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:34 pm to Prodigal Tiger
This whole situtation with Lee wouldn't be so bad if Miles didn't cut Garrett from the team. A position that didn't have much depth at all and that has been a huge question mark for 2 years, you need as many players as you can get. Now, we lost two scholarship QBs and no reliable 3rd string.
Things could be worse, just imagine if Jarrett Lee had transfered after 2008.
Things could be worse, just imagine if Jarrett Lee had transfered after 2008.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:34 pm to Prodigal Tiger
AGREED....
We should not be where we are with the QB situation.
We should not be where we are with the QB situation.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:35 pm to Prodigal Tiger
quote:You mean things that you claim to know after the fact. Hindsight is always 20/20.
Miles' failure isn't isolated to the Zach Lee incident. It's just a part of a larger picture of him not thinking things through, things that the rest of us already know
It's real easy to sit here and pick apart every decision someone in a leadership position has ever made and claim you knew all the answers. It's different when you are the one making the decisions that affect a program/company and the pressure is on you to get it right.
The fact that you are willing to act this way is proof to me you have never been in the leadership position in a pressure job. You speculate on what you would have done all the while using 20/20 hindsight and don't have a clue to all the factors that went into any of the decisions made by Miles that you criticize so easily.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:36 pm to Prominentwon
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Look at his QB depth as well. Hell, look at UF's.
His QB depth is pretty good IMO. Not fantastic. But yeah the OP is just an arse with no idea of what goes on and it's painfully obvious.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:37 pm to bmy
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His QB depth is pretty good IMO
McElroy
RS Fresh
Fresh
Brantley
True Fresh
True Fresh
TE
If Brantley and/or McElroy gets hurt, wow.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:38 pm to Prominentwon
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McElroy
RS Fresh
Fresh
Brantley
True Fresh
True Fresh
TE
Yeah, true
Our depth is good this year but we're talking about 2012.. I think.Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:39 pm to bmy
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His QB depth is pretty good IMO. Not fantastic. But yeah the OP is just an arse with no idea of what goes on and it's painfully obvious.
Bama is pretty solid. McCarron, Simms. Now, they have the Ely commitment. Much much better than LSU's. Right now the QB for the future at LSU is not on campus yet and has the label of "project" anyway.
Its not over for LSU at this point but I think it puts the coaching staff against a wall in regards to getting a quality commit in the next few months.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:41 pm to mtnhighTiger
+100000000 
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:47 pm to XbengalTiger
quote:
Classic....
The ranter manifesto: If you don't think like me you must be a loser in a shite job.
Let me break it to you...most successful people don't think like everyone else. That's why they are successful.
Let me break it to you. You show me a succesfull person and I will show you someone who demands results from those around him. In the real world, if you don't produce you are gone.
What happens to the salesman who goes into the sales managers office and has some weak bullshite about why his sales are the worst in the office? "frick you, sell."
I'm reminded of a scene from Goodfellas. The narrator is talking about a deal that Pauly entered into with some guy. It was obvious that the guy wasn't going to be able to hold up his end of the deal. Here is how the narrator explained Pauly's desire for results.
"Now the guy's gotta come up with Crowley's money every week, no matter what. Business is bad? frick you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? frick you, pay me. The place got hit by lightning, huh? frick you, pay me."
This is where I am, and where we all should be with Miles. It's like this.
"Perriloux turned out to be a loser. frick you, win. Zach Lee tricked me. frick you, win. Chris Garret wasn't that good. frick you, win."
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