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heres one reason to be optimistic about Jennings and the offense
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:32 pm
the first down on 3rd and 7. because there's actually a lot going on here and all of it is really good.
Wisconsin had a safety blitz set up, but the hard count gets him to bite and the linebacker has to change the play. Jennings calls for the ball and Dickson, on the right side of the line, runs a route across the middle.
Dickson was seemingly the first option, but the safety and DE both peel off and go with him, so Jennings starts his progression.
this alone makes Jennings more like Zach than... you know. the quarterback before Zach. you know the one I mean.
so Jennings looks left and sees Diarse, who is actually not open yet, but he will be. Jennings knows the route, knows where Diarse will break, and trusts him to do so. he's already made his decision and started to throw before Diarse breaks. I've seen people say it's dumb to stop the route before the first down marker but it's not, that's where the CB expects you to stop, breaking the route off a step early gives Diarse separation.
after that you just have to trust in the WR to make a play. and since Diarse is 210, and runs the route right, and the ball stops in his hands as if you just dropped it on a pillow, that's what he does.
NOTE: the pass here by Jennings is terrific. it's almost 30 yards (I think), against a blitz, and it would have hit Diarse in the throat if he hadn't caught it (the hashmarks are 20 yards from the sideline, Jennings throws it from the hash on the 48, Diarse catches it about a little off the sideline on the 40. I'm guessing that's about 28 yards in the air, total, but I'm borderline retarded at math so that's probably not even close).
also, a lot of receivers frick this up by slowing down or stopping, they post up basically, not because they're dumb but because they're focusing on the ball and pausing for an instant is the natural thing to do, but Diarse keeps his feet moving which helps him get away from the corner. maybe he does that naturally but it probably means he's receptive to coaching and has worked on it.
and Magee deserves a lot of credit here as well. he reads the safety too, he's watching him the entire time, but the call was changed and its the OLB who blitzes now. Magee moves to the strong side then does a really job at getting back in time to block for Jennings.
there's no point in repeating every negative thing that was ever said about the QB before Zach, but plays like this didn't happen when he was here, for whatever reason. he would stare at one guy and either throw it to him or run, assuming that he hadn't been sacked yet while staring at the one guy.
that worked often enough for some people to think he was a good QB. he was not. it's not a terrible idea with the right player, it's pretty much what Texas AM and OK State do now. in fact it's close to what Mike Leech and West Virginia do. the ball is snapped and the QB throws it to a predetermined spot on the field. they don't read the defense, they catch the ball and they throw it. that's how Texas Tech always had 3-star prospects leading the NCAA in passing, and it's why those guys never make it in the NFL despite throwing for 600 yards a game in college.
it's also why West Virginia threw for a million yards on us but hardly scored. our defense didn't "tighten up" in the red zone, that phrase doesn't even mean anything, the spots to throw too just got smaller and smaller. all we really did that night was wait for them to get inside the 20 and then they were done. with the athletes we had on that defense they had no where left to run, we just stood there and punched them.
which is the problem with that offense. barring some disparity in talent between the teams or some other outlier, a good defense will stop it.
this however is true pro-style. this is an example of a QB who is both smart and well coached. in fact everyone here looks well coached. it's just one play in one game but do this right and the offense will score on anyone.
Wisconsin had a safety blitz set up, but the hard count gets him to bite and the linebacker has to change the play. Jennings calls for the ball and Dickson, on the right side of the line, runs a route across the middle.
Dickson was seemingly the first option, but the safety and DE both peel off and go with him, so Jennings starts his progression.
this alone makes Jennings more like Zach than... you know. the quarterback before Zach. you know the one I mean.
so Jennings looks left and sees Diarse, who is actually not open yet, but he will be. Jennings knows the route, knows where Diarse will break, and trusts him to do so. he's already made his decision and started to throw before Diarse breaks. I've seen people say it's dumb to stop the route before the first down marker but it's not, that's where the CB expects you to stop, breaking the route off a step early gives Diarse separation.
after that you just have to trust in the WR to make a play. and since Diarse is 210, and runs the route right, and the ball stops in his hands as if you just dropped it on a pillow, that's what he does.
NOTE: the pass here by Jennings is terrific. it's almost 30 yards (I think), against a blitz, and it would have hit Diarse in the throat if he hadn't caught it (the hashmarks are 20 yards from the sideline, Jennings throws it from the hash on the 48, Diarse catches it about a little off the sideline on the 40. I'm guessing that's about 28 yards in the air, total, but I'm borderline retarded at math so that's probably not even close).
also, a lot of receivers frick this up by slowing down or stopping, they post up basically, not because they're dumb but because they're focusing on the ball and pausing for an instant is the natural thing to do, but Diarse keeps his feet moving which helps him get away from the corner. maybe he does that naturally but it probably means he's receptive to coaching and has worked on it.
and Magee deserves a lot of credit here as well. he reads the safety too, he's watching him the entire time, but the call was changed and its the OLB who blitzes now. Magee moves to the strong side then does a really job at getting back in time to block for Jennings.
there's no point in repeating every negative thing that was ever said about the QB before Zach, but plays like this didn't happen when he was here, for whatever reason. he would stare at one guy and either throw it to him or run, assuming that he hadn't been sacked yet while staring at the one guy.
that worked often enough for some people to think he was a good QB. he was not. it's not a terrible idea with the right player, it's pretty much what Texas AM and OK State do now. in fact it's close to what Mike Leech and West Virginia do. the ball is snapped and the QB throws it to a predetermined spot on the field. they don't read the defense, they catch the ball and they throw it. that's how Texas Tech always had 3-star prospects leading the NCAA in passing, and it's why those guys never make it in the NFL despite throwing for 600 yards a game in college.
it's also why West Virginia threw for a million yards on us but hardly scored. our defense didn't "tighten up" in the red zone, that phrase doesn't even mean anything, the spots to throw too just got smaller and smaller. all we really did that night was wait for them to get inside the 20 and then they were done. with the athletes we had on that defense they had no where left to run, we just stood there and punched them.
which is the problem with that offense. barring some disparity in talent between the teams or some other outlier, a good defense will stop it.
this however is true pro-style. this is an example of a QB who is both smart and well coached. in fact everyone here looks well coached. it's just one play in one game but do this right and the offense will score on anyone.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:35 pm to MastrShake
Hard not to be encouraged after that second half.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:37 pm to MastrShake
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:40 pm to MastrShake
I believe if Dickson would have sat down at the hash, slowing the safety a little, Diarse would have gone to the house with it.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:40 pm to MastrShake
How open was TQ8 on the left side of the field in that play? Not trying to be a dick, just curious
This post was edited on 8/31/14 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:41 pm to MastrShake
It's clear he is the #1 QB
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:42 pm to Cajun Revolution
Yeah, I am really looking forward to watching Jennings going forward...the guy is just a gamer, plus it helps when Cam is coaching you as well.
This post was edited on 8/31/14 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:42 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
Trey Quinn is the GOAT of this freshman class 

Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:42 pm to MastrShake
I actually have a lot of confidence in this offense. Big question is... Will CC open up the playbook, take chances, and give this offense a shot at being great?
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:43 pm to MastrShake
MastrShake & Cam Cameron
And Jennings
frick it, Diarse
Man I really like this whole team :bow:


And Jennings

frick it, Diarse

Man I really like this whole team :bow:


Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:43 pm to fnchdrms87
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How open was TQ8 on the left side of the field in that play?
That play? Not all that open. Dickson had a step and Diarse made himself get open. Quinn was covered fairly well.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:44 pm to MastrShake
You did a good job with that post.
I saw a spin move and movement in the pocket I liked from him. Plus some arse chewing as well on a few plays (shows leadership). Not too mention a tight spiral on most throws. I think we need to play Harris some just for experience but in my opinion Jennings is firmly the starter AND finisher.
I saw a spin move and movement in the pocket I liked from him. Plus some arse chewing as well on a few plays (shows leadership). Not too mention a tight spiral on most throws. I think we need to play Harris some just for experience but in my opinion Jennings is firmly the starter AND finisher.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:44 pm to lsutothetop
I rewatched the whole game today and I think our biggest mistake was not letting Jennings throw more often. There are several examples of him making the throw to the spot and it being perfect. I thought on the throw to Quinn and Dickson he could have done better but there were a few that were perfect throws. Our biggest fix needs to be pass blocking on the O-Line. I think this young man will be a great starter. I wouldn't give Harris many more meaningful snaps after this. I would even consider redshirting him but those couple of snaps may have blown that. I'm not well versed in the redshirting rules.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:46 pm to LSUFANinIL
I wish they would use these next two games to open things up and experiment, but they will use as vanilla an offense as possible per the usual in mismatches:
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:49 pm to MastrShake
Great post and great breakdown. I am very excited about our offense. I think the sluggish start was more pregame jitters for the coaches than the actual players. I think the coaches were too worried about limiting jennings mistake and when the finally made the call to release the hounds our young players answered the bell. Hopefully they earned the coaches trust last night and we can watch these guys blossom.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:49 pm to TheWalrus
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I wish they would use these next two games to open things up and experiment, but they will use as vanilla an offense as possible per the usual in mismatches:
Normally I would agree, but this isnt 2011, we have too many young guys we need to get ready for the rest of the year...I expect to see a lot different formations on both sides of the ball
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:49 pm to tigereye58
Redshirt is gone. If he gets "hurt" he could apply for medical. But that series took the redshirt away.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:50 pm to MastrShake
quote:I love the gif's on the play, but there is nothing that shows that Diarse isn't the first read. Obviously Jennings doesn't just stare him down. The TE is even open on the play, but there are a line of lineman in the path of any throw.
Dickson was seemingly the first option, but the safety and DE both peel off and go with him, so Jennings starts his progression
Love the gif's tho'

Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:52 pm to fnchdrms87
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Posted by fnchdrms87 How open was TQ8 on the left side of the field in that play? Not trying to be a dick, just curious
He was covered pretty well and jennings put the ball where only he could reach it. Hit him in both hands when he dove and with a little more playing time at this level I think he makes that catch more times than not.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:55 pm to MastrShake
Appreciate your efforts to back your thoughts up with footage.
It's understandable that many (myself included) were frustrated by the start of the game... and by the start I mean the first half and change... but Jennings and the offense did show signs of being able to open things up a bit.
If they can build on that and get more comfortable on the field more consistently (partly a matter of execution and partly of trust by the coaches), this team might just make a strong run this year.


It's understandable that many (myself included) were frustrated by the start of the game... and by the start I mean the first half and change... but Jennings and the offense did show signs of being able to open things up a bit.
If they can build on that and get more comfortable on the field more consistently (partly a matter of execution and partly of trust by the coaches), this team might just make a strong run this year.

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