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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:04 pm to tigerskin
So he became a puppet. 
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:05 pm to 5Alive
bullshite
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:08 pm to 5Alive
bullshite. This seems to be a standard practice at Texas. Tell a kid after he flips not to announce it and just sign on NSD. They did it with Davis too.
Texas is desperate. They are an after thought in college football these days and the Longhorn Network is a flop.
Texas is desperate. They are an after thought in college football these days and the Longhorn Network is a flop.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:08 pm to DEG
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The other factor here is the High School. No HS coach worth his salt wants a program like LSU to stop recruiting their kids, and this kind of BS is what causes programs to stop recruiting from certain places. It's short sighted bullshite.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:11 pm to tigerskin
Texas will continue to be the joke of Texas and will get assraped on most Saturdays...
lube up brah
lube up brah
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:12 pm to UncleTed
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That's fine if he wants to operate like that, but long term he is screwing himself.
Correct. He's burning bridges quickly
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:14 pm to tigerskin
quote:where exactly does it state or imply this in the linked article?
Strong told him not to
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:16 pm to tigerskin
It sure sounds like he was asking recruits, and their families, to intentionally mislead others. If so that is pretty low. My only question is will this come back to bite him in the arse in the future if he tries it with recruits who value integrity? How can you believe a person who tells you, "I'm not lying to you, but I want you to lie to everyone else."
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:16 pm to ForeverLSU02
Common sense. The article is from a Texas homer. But it is quoted that Strong told the recruits not to commit to Texas. I can add 2 and 2.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:24 pm to tigerskin
quote:I didn't take it as him literally asking them not to commit, but that he did not pressure them into committing
But it is quoted that Strong told the recruits not to commit to Texas.
Who knows. This is an entire new level of unprofessionalism if he did in fact ask them not to commit while they continued to string their schools along. For UT to flip so many in the last week makes you wonder though
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:27 pm to 5Alive
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Charlie was on XM yesterday and said that fowler called him yesterday morning to let him know. They didn't know up until that point.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:28 pm to 5Alive
I really don't think this was all concocted by Strong and Fowler.
I think the kid made a decision that morning or the day before. Probably should have called LSU to let them know, but it really doesn't matter.
Strong doesn't come off like that and there's no reason to create bad blood between the programs.
I think the kid made a decision that morning or the day before. Probably should have called LSU to let them know, but it really doesn't matter.
Strong doesn't come off like that and there's no reason to create bad blood between the programs.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:30 pm to Duckie
He did it for the other recruits. Quoted clear as can be
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:30 pm to Duckie
quote:Yeah, I think everyone is looking way too much into this and trying to convince themselves that something shady was going on. Then again, this didn't just happen with Fowler. They flipped several big names yesterday. Kind of makes you wonder
I really don't think this was all concocted by Strong and Fowler.
I think the kid made a decision that morning.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:31 pm to texastigerr
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1) Strong knows that the kid is committed to LSU and that LSU is not offering another kid a spot that might really want to be at LSU. (substitute any school here) So he is preventing another player from being offered because the coaches believe they have that spot filled and have other positions to fill.
2) The family and Fowler are allowing Strong to use them as part of a hoax on the coaches and school he is committed to and are taking part in a deception. A deception that they themselves have no reason to be a part of. It's not like Miles and staff have done anything to Fowler to cause resentment that would deserve them being deceived. And, now Fowler himself has taken an action with his family that most likely resulted in another player from being able to get an offer in time from LSU. And possibly a kid that with the open spot really wanted to come to LSU.
It's not Strong's job to worry about LSU's recruiting and how he may be harming it. That said, he essentially persuaded and condoned kids lying to other coaching staffs. It's one thing to ask a kid to remain publicly "uncommitted". It's another to encourage them to be deceptive. The kid's family should have enough respect to say "you're going to tell the other coaches that you are no longer committed to them."
Sadly, college football is a results-oriented, cutthroat business. If this recruiting haul turns out to bring Texas back to the top of college football no one at UT will care how Strong got the players to come to the school. Conversely, if he didn't get the players and continued to lose, he would be out on his arse. No one at UT would care that he "played it straight" in recruiting. The bottom line would be that he was continuing to lose games.
When the only acceptable result is win at all costs (which is the ONLY thing fans/donors care about) you do whatever you have to do to reach that objective.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:33 pm to texastigerr
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There are two things that suck about this. 1 regarding the coach and 1 regarding the kid.
1) Strong knows that the kid is committed to LSU and that LSU is not offering another kid a spot that might really want to be at LSU. (substitute any school here) So he is preventing another player from being offered because the coaches believe they have that spot filled and have other positions to fill.
2) The family and Fowler are allowing Strong to use them as part of a hoax on the coaches and school he is committed to and are taking part in a deception. A deception that they themselves have no reason to be a part of. It's not like Miles and staff have done anything to Fowler to cause resentment that would deserve them being deceived. And, now Fowler himself has taken an action with his family that most likely resulted in another player from being able to get an offer in time from LSU. And possibly a kid that with the open spot really wanted to come to LSU.
I don't get why the kid would go along with this because one of the reasons that Strong gave was that he didn't want other schools reminding the recruit that Texas sucks and has no shot to win anything.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:35 pm to ForeverLSU02
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Yeah, I think everyone is looking way too much into this and trying to convince themselves that something shady was going on. Then again, this didn't just happen with Fowler. They flipped several big names yesterday. Kind of makes you wonder
well, the writer has the narrative that Strong is some evil mastermind. I doubt he did that with Fowler. No reason to. Everyone knew it was either LSU or UT.
He most likely only did it with the kids who were not committed or decomitted.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:38 pm to Duckie
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In an approach that ran counterintuitive to everything people thought they knew about recruiting, this is what the Texas coach did over the past few months: He told players not to commit to the Longhorns. He kept wooing all of the top prospects, complimenting Erick Fowler’s mother on her pancakes and Jeffrey McCulloch’s mother on her ribs, but he never pressured them to announce their intentions.
He wanted them to wait. Part of this, Strong admitted, was due to fear. He realized that as soon as a player declares a commitment, the competition knows which program to attack. And he knew UT’s 5-7 finish in 2015 left it particularly vulnerable.
“After the season we had,” Strong said, “I didn’t want them attacking us.”
Duckie,
what do you read into the statement that was in the article.
We could be wrong, but if i had to put my money down.
I would say he told them not to decommit or show some love for tu.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:38 pm to ForeverLSU02
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where exactly does it state or imply this in the linked article?
So you saw what happened with Texas' class yesterday--hoof beats--and your first instinct is zebras instead of horses? Really?
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