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Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:19 pm to theBru
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Etling's ball never crossed the LOS, therefore, it was intentional grounding...
Etling was hit as he was throwing the ball. That usually isn't called intentional grounding. Not sure how the rule applies in that situation. But I have seen it happen fairly often that the QB is hit while throwing and the ball doesn't go past the line of scrimmage where it isn't considered grounding and no one even questions that it should be called grounding.
But I don't know if the rule addresses that circumstance.
If the rule states it doesn't matter whetherthe QB is being hit or not, the ball still needs to go past the line of scrimmage, then that call is missed dam near every game. Every replay where they try to determine if the QB's arm was moving forward or not and the ball just falls to the ground would be called either intentional grounding or a fumble if that was the case.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:22 pm to Mulerider
Glad to get the replay because it looks close enough to let it go without a flag. I found the late hit and watched that replay, it too was close enough that there should not have been a call.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:32 pm to boxcar willie
If the ball was tipped it's Def not grounding. Being hit while throwing I believe is a judgement call as to if the ball would have gone past the neutral zone without contact.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:34 pm to theBru
Was Etlings ball even a pass?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:35 pm to Catman88
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No, go pick up a rule book. THE tackle box has nothing to do with the RT
That's cool to say and all, but you and I both know that everyone gauges it based on the tackles.
And the officials give the quarterback the benefit of the doubt whenever he is near the edge of the box.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:37 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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I dont know the ruling on reviews for IG, but if reviewed, it should have been called.
Sure. If the refs can have a line to look at on replay and make the call, no doubt.
But they don't. And usually as long as the QB is near the edge of the tackle box, they don't make that call.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:38 pm to BayouBengals03
That is complete utter BS. People in the stands don't study the rule book. The men on the field do. THEY know with utmost certainty what the fricking tackle box is. If they do not then they are simply not qualified for major sports officiating.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:38 pm to theBru
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Etling's ball never crossed the LOS, therefore, it was intentional grounding...
Read this slowly...Etling's throw was impeded by a hit from a defender. When this happens IG shall not be called. The LOS has NOTHING to do with his attempt to throw being impeded.
If this was the case, every time a QB went to throw the ball and was hit IG would be called if it flutters out of his hand and doesn't cross the line.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:40 pm to BayouBengals03
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And the officials give the ALABAMA quarterback the benefit of the doubt
FIFY
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:41 pm to BayouBengals03
This is actually one of the only replayable situations fir intentional grounding it is supposed to be replayed if there is question. We didn't even get a replay.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:43 pm to Catman88
The way the rule is written it's a judgement call. 99% of the time it's not called.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:44 pm to Catman88
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That is complete utter BS. People in the stands don't study the rule book. The men on the field do. THEY know with utmost certainty what the fricking tackle box is. If they do not then they are simply not qualified for major sports officiating.
Again, you think it's easier to imagine 5 yards in their head or to look at where the tackle puts his feet? Even Danielson draws the tackle box lines based off of the tackles.
Football has a lot of inexact science in it, and this is another example. As long as this isn't a reviewable play, it's going to be a judgement call that usually sides with the QB as long as he is near the edge of the box.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:46 pm to Catman88
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This is actually one of the only replayable situations fir intentional grounding it is supposed to be replayed if there is question. We didn't even get a replay.
I know intentional grounding is not reviewable in the NFL, and I assume it isn't in college either.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:48 pm to BayouBengals03
Uhhhhhh there is instant replay for this exact situation. You know to get the rule correct...
It's a point scoring play. Its inexcusable to not get a review out of Birmingham. There was no quick snap on the next play.
Are you really making the claim that Danielson is a qualified ncaa official?
It's a point scoring play. Its inexcusable to not get a review out of Birmingham. There was no quick snap on the next play.
Are you really making the claim that Danielson is a qualified ncaa official?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:51 pm to BayouBengals03
I'm 100 sure the same applies to the NFL
Replay rule 12.3.2
Replay rule 12.3.2
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f. Location of the passer when he is obviously in the field of play and a ruling of intentional grounding would result in a safety by penalty.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:03 pm to BayouBengals03
For the NFL I guess that's possible. I thought there was a rule that all scoring plays were reviewable without challenge.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:05 pm to BayouBengals03
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Sure. If the refs can have a line to look at on replay and make the call, no doubt.
But they don't. And usually as long as the QB is near the edge of the tackle box, they don't make that call.
In other words.....always rule in Bama's favor....yeah, we know how it works in this conference....and the fans are getting pretty damn fed up with this bullshite!!!!
I won't be watching the national championship (especially if the gumps are in it)....boycott this bullshite conference...& you definitely won't hear me doing the S-E-C chant ever again...should rename the conference BAMA conference because that's all it is.....
frick Bama!!!
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:17 am to Mulerider
He was outside of the tackle box. Guess you didn't play football.
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