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Help me understand why a conference champ game loss matters
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:47 pm
in certain scenarios. Take Georgia and Alabama for example, or any other similar example. If Georgia wins out, but loses the SEC Championship game, I keep seeing Georgia is out of the playoffs and Bama may be in. I don't understand that. The moment before the SECCG kickoff, Georgia is #4 and they did everything they had to do to win the East. Because of that they have to play in the SECCG and risk a loss and potentially the CFP while a team like Alabama doesn't have to risk another loss, but may get in before UGA. I don't get it.
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:48 pm to Keeper (LSU)
Not making it to a conference championship gets you a bye week before the playoffs.
That's fricked up.
That's fricked up.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:49 pm to Keeper (LSU)
Yeah fair point. Why reward the team that didn’t make that game by punishing the one that did. It should only help you but not hurt you.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:49 pm to Keeper (LSU)
It really doesn't make sense
Alabama doesn't have the opportunity to lose in that game
BTW they're not the first to benefit from such a scenario
When Nebraska played Miami in the 2001 season BCS championship they got destroyed by Colorado and did not play in the Big 12 Championship
Alabama doesn't have the opportunity to lose in that game
BTW they're not the first to benefit from such a scenario
When Nebraska played Miami in the 2001 season BCS championship they got destroyed by Colorado and did not play in the Big 12 Championship
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:49 pm to r2d2
Except if that would be UGA’s 3rd L.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:50 pm to r2d2
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Except if that would be UGA’s 3rd L.
If they have 2 losses going in they're already out of the picture most likely unless they would beat us and a lot of chaos occurred
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:52 pm to Powerman
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If they have 2 losses going in they're already out of the picture most likely unless they would beat us and a lot of chaos occurred
Still, in that case Alabama gets a bye week before the playoffs.
fricked up.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:54 pm to Keeper (LSU)
UGA second loss
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:54 pm to r2d2
quote:
Yeah fair point. Why reward the team that didn’t make that game by punishing the one that did. It should only help you but not hurt you.
Yep, is should be an unwritten rule that no back door entry is allowed.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:55 pm to Keeper (LSU)
There should be a rule that a team that did not win its conference championship cannot participate in the playoffs.
It would then be up to each conference's member schools to determine how it's best for their conferences to determine their champion.
It would then be up to each conference's member schools to determine how it's best for their conferences to determine their champion.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:58 pm to Keeper (LSU)
It’s exactly the reason why teams should not get rewarded for getting into championship games or the playoffs. We should not have played Bama in 2011. Same as this year.
And it’s a competitive disadvantage. They get rewarded basically a bye week to rest up and prevent any players from getting injured and play against a team that had to play that extra week against a team that is usually one of the best in its conference. Total BS.
And it’s a competitive disadvantage. They get rewarded basically a bye week to rest up and prevent any players from getting injured and play against a team that had to play that extra week against a team that is usually one of the best in its conference. Total BS.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:00 pm to Keeper (LSU)
Two words- EYE TEST
By the committee not coming out with any standard or solid criteria it’s basically leaving potential for the same flaws we saw with the BCS just in a different format.
By the committee not coming out with any standard or solid criteria it’s basically leaving potential for the same flaws we saw with the BCS just in a different format.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:03 pm to Keeper (LSU)
Saban said if a team doesnt win their conference championship they shouldn’t be in cfp then the next yr he said it should be about the body of work of the team to determine if in cfp. You are right but each coach, depending on their position, will say what benefits them. Saban, or any coach for that matter, will say what benefits them at that point in time.
Bama should be out if lsu osu clemson oregon win out
Bama should be out if lsu osu clemson oregon win out
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:03 pm to Townedrunkard
If UGA wins out then loses to us, they will be 11-2. Bama, if they win out, will be 11-1. Bama will have both the better record and will be ranked higher than UGA.
For the folks who firmly believe LSU will get a cfp bid at 12-1 with that one loss to UGA, think again. We will be in a pool of other 12-1 teams who are conference champions. It is NOT a given that we'll get that 4th spot as UGA will certainly get the SEC champs spot.
We need to win the SEC title. That is our guarantee of a bid. And our only concern should be getting LSU into the cfp.
For the folks who firmly believe LSU will get a cfp bid at 12-1 with that one loss to UGA, think again. We will be in a pool of other 12-1 teams who are conference champions. It is NOT a given that we'll get that 4th spot as UGA will certainly get the SEC champs spot.
We need to win the SEC title. That is our guarantee of a bid. And our only concern should be getting LSU into the cfp.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:04 pm to SoulGlo
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Still, in that case Alabama gets a bye week before the playoffs.
fricked up.
Perhaps the solution is as simple as this: if conference championships don't matter to the selection committee then they should pick the final 4 before championship weekend
That way no one benefits or is hurt by the championship game
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:06 pm to Keeper (LSU)
But Bama plays the juggernaut Western Carolina. You can’t tell me that’s not the same thing as playing an extra game against a top opponent.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:14 am to Melvin
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By the committee not coming out with any standard or solid criteria it’s basically leaving potential for the same flaws we saw with the BCS just in a different format.
the committee HUMANS is why the BCS was born in the first place.
HUMANS have an agenda an biases ...I do not care how many times they say they do not. Look at all the talk to get Bama back into the finals.....
It should be about fairness, not the eye test.
Can you imagine that if in the BIG DANCE a #1 team got upset and it would then be brought back into the Final Four
The BCS got it right (after a couple of years) the NCAA got it wrong by keeping the playoffs to 2 teams.
Put the BCS back in, go to 6 teams where #1 and #2 get a bye, since now
#1 and #2 equal 3 and 4.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 9:36 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:48 am to SoulGlo
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Not making it to a conference championship gets you a bye week before the playoffs.
If there is just one thing to change about the current system it would address that.
In every other sport, the better team(s) gets the BYE and the lesser team(s) has to play the extra game.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:49 am to Keeper (LSU)
Conference championship games should serve as a de facto round 1 of the playoff.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:51 am to Keeper (LSU)
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Help me understand why a conference champ game loss matters
Beacuse the loser of the SECCG has NEVER made the playoff!
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