re: Help me understand the Burrow hype

I find it hilarious how people were talking about how McMillan, Brennan and Narcisse were going to be fine following the spring game.

As soon as it was mentioned that Burrow might want to sign with LSU their true feelings came out. The feelings were widespread about how much trouble we'd be in if they were to be our QBs in the fall.

The people on this board play some weird mind tricks on themselves.

I’m not going to pick apart that little hissy fit line by line but the point remains that you’re just shooing away a significant QB evaluation tool which is film study. Your point is essentially that we have no reasonable idea how good Burrow will be when there is plenty of tape there to see his release, footwork, and accuracy are above average to elite. The fundamentals of playing the position don’t change with game situation or competition. Does it tell the whole story? Hell no, but it’s a damn good way to predict what he can do, and coaches and scouts stake their careers on it all the time. You can point to the times they’re wrong but for the most part the film doesn’t lie and fundamentally sound players who are also talented are typically very successful. I never said Burrow would be incredible, I said that there’s a reason for the hype and it’s clearly observable on tape. If you can’t accept that then I don’t know what to tell you.

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But I’m also not naive enough to state for 100% fact that he will be incredible.

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Who is saying that he will be.

This is a thread asking folks to justify the hype for Burrow.

You are trying to change this into some sort of guarantee that he will be incredible.

There is certainly tangible rationale for the hype. But there is no way anyone can guarantee he will live up to it.

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I never said Burrow would be incredible, I said that there’s a reason for the hype and it’s clearly observable on tape. If you can’t accept that then I don’t know what to tell you.

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TheDrunkenTigah gets it.

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He was developed elsewhere.

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This is a very big part of it. When is the last time an Urban Meyer QB (even backups) was not at least average or better. his late UF days?

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the excitement opposed to Narcisse/McMillan/Brennan

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The fact that our coaching staff thought it was important enough to go recruit him mid year should tell you they dont think our current QBs are ready for game time.

The program took a risk by bringing him in an alienating the other QBs...they wouldnt have done that if there was a good QB on the roster.

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I mean, all you are doing is taking the rationales for the hype and painting them as negatively as you can.

You shite on his incredible completion percentage because they were in mop up time. Well here is the optimistic spin: 78% is hard to do on air, let alone against even an undermanned defense.

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Listing facts is not “shifting” on someone. Was Ohio St not up 52-3 in the fourth quarter vs Bowling Green? Was the game close? Was it not mop up duty vs an awful team? Were QB’s in the spring game allowed to get sacked? Was the defense blitzing? Has he ever started a college game was I wrong about that? Name 1 thing I’ve said that isn’t factually accurate.

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Gee, I wonder why folks are excited about Burrow. Ultimately, Burrow will have to perform. But to have trouble understanding the "Burrow hype" at this point either means you are borderline retarded or just a negative fan.

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OP asked where he hype came from. I answered. I understand it but it’s not realistic. Most fan optimism never is. You not liking the answer doesn’t make me “retarded” or negative. You disagreeing with facts is a you problem

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You disagreeing with facts is a you problem

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Show me where I disagreed with facts.

His 78% completion percentage is a fact (Fact 1).

It is also a fact that he did it in mop up duty (Fact 2).

You used Fact 2 to argue that Fact 1 was no a valid reason for optimism.

I then countered by noting that of three of our decent-to-good starting QBs in the past 12 years, they only matched his completion percentage a handful of times in a single game (let alone over the number of reps Joe has).

That is the counterpoint to your point.

The question of the thread is where does the optimism come from? That is what the OP (stupidly) asked. It's the film, the success in high school, the # of good teams that recruited him, the 78% completion percentage, the pedigree, the OSU insiders and his performance in the OSU spring game. All of those are the reasons for the hype.

What I didn't realize is that you were arguing a different point - basically not whether the hype is justified but instead, whether the data we have would guarantee success. It's a very different question then someone trying to argue that the hype isn't justified.

The hype is for sure justified (failure to see that by anyone makes them a retard). But no one can say it will be realized. At least not definitively.

Bama is home this year