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re: Hello to ESPN's "The Experts".. It is obvious you read the rant

Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:24 pm to
YEAH! LM is our twit. Lay off.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77742 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:38 pm to
Oh my god, this is pathetic
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
6900 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:54 pm to
Hey, great post, rocket scientist--you made a lot of excellent points. I have criticized Crowton much more than Miles, but truly wish victory for the Tigers & happiness for Coach Miles. However, I did have one question: were you meaning the ESPN college football commentators in general, or most of them? We know that Pollack, Mark Ma and Herbstreit, among others have been among the most vocal critics of the Tigers.
What other ESPN commentators do you think are anti- LSU?
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:05 pm to
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What other ESPN commentators do you think are anti- LSU?


I try to keep in mind that all of the ESPN guys are working for ratings, because the Board of Directors for Disney insist that they do. For instance, Corso, Mark May and others will take certain positions just to get more attention and "effect" for the average viewer. They have a emmy winning formula, so keep in mind that like I said, the E in ESPN is for Entertainment.

To answer your question, beyond the role playing and rating seeking - The most natural and consistent vitriol comes from David Pollack and Kirk Herbstreit. The trends are overwhelming. Kirk will reign it in from time to time and throw a bone to the LSU nation, but the proponderance of his "opinions" are not in favor of LSU. It is not LSU he dislikes, it is a certain portion of the LSU fans he hates, and he does a terrible job of hiding it. What I keep in mind is what happened to me as a kid in Louisiana in regards to the Dallas Cowboys. I grew up "hating" the Cowboys, but in retrospect i did not hate the actual Cowboys, as a Saints fan I was envious of their success and i HATED their bragadocious snot-nosed fans. Herbstreit is that way about LSU, and the "Miles-to-Michigan" back-and-forth, as well as LSU's smackdown of tOSU in the 2007 BCSNCG, has a great deal to do with this.

Pollack, is the one who is most excited to put down LSU. LSU's beatdown of UGA in 2003, as well as the fact that his Bulldawgs have not translated the same success as LSU in the BCS era, not even once while LSU is 2-for-2 in winning BCS national championships in his "adult" lifetime. This irks him to no end, thus the vitriol for all things LSU.

I think Mark May has been the most consistently fair and accurate about the Tigers, and if anything, partial to LSU over the years.

The 6-member panel of the "Experts" is who this is targeted to, because that grouping has universally and emphatically dumped on LSU all year long, and have an especially hard boner for dumping on Les this week. I can so see the board room session before each show.
This post was edited on 10/7/10 at 11:40 pm
Posted by nosaj
Member since Sep 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:05 pm to
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What other ESPN commentators do you think are anti- LSU?


Ol' Dr. Lou! That man says the most ridiculous things! (whenever you can understand him!)
Posted by alange
Island hoppin
Member since Feb 2009
4820 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:36 pm to
rocket sci and I would be biggest homies irl
Posted by TigerMike58
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
734 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 2:00 am to
Kudos TRS for an inspiring and well thought out post!

I concur most heartily!

Here's to the Tigers de-jorting the Gayters this weekend and for finishing the season strong.

Lay off Les non-Tiger fans! I say; "He may be a fool, but he's our fool"



Posted by TViper777
Georgia
Member since Jan 2005
229 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 5:01 am to
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Yes, Coach Miles is one quirky dude, who speaks a one and only linguistic form that is best described as Mad-Hatter-bonics. No one else speaks like that.


Posted by TViper777
Georgia
Member since Jan 2005
229 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 5:19 am to
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THUS FAR, the criticism is warranted, all the while that LSU imperfectly arrived at a perfect 5-0 with wins over 5 FCS teams of UNC, Vandy, Miss State, West Virginia and Tenn - so congrats for doing your job and ripping the LSU nation, team and coaching staff.


Great post, and I hope your are correct... but those 5 schools are FBS (D1 A) schools, not FCS (D1 AA) schools.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 5:44 am to
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The guys on the rant, as ridiculous as we can be at times, know a frickload more about SEC football than any of the assholes on ESPN


May be true, but it does not translate into posts on the rant.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 6:00 am to
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May be true, but it does not translate into posts on the rant


Never said they actually post, although I think it is more likely than not that at some point one of them has, but this is more to say that it is 100% that some of them read this site from time to time and that is where they get their insight into just how mad LSU folks have been of late. It is not just from emails and them tuning into WWL and such, there is a susbset of their crew tuning into to the rant.
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5573 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 6:03 am to
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Win or lose, I bleed purple and gold. Through Archer, Dinardo, Hallman, I claimed my Tigers and pulled for them.


Amen and to hell with anyone that doesn't.

+1000000
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:49 am to
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This post was edited on 10/8/10 at 12:30 pm
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 12:29 pm to
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Lay off Les non-Tiger fans! I say; "He may be a fool, but he's our fool"


exactly
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/9/10 at 7:56 am to
shameless game day bump
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/9/10 at 8:10 am to
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shameless game day bump




Well deserved! Thanks, I hadn't seen this yet.


Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3043 posts
Posted on 10/9/10 at 8:13 am to
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you need to consider how stupid it looks for your "BCS Countdown" show to only reference the AP Poll which is irrelevant in the BCS formula


I emailed them about this............they didn't reply, I have no clue why they even mention the AP poll....
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/9/10 at 8:19 am to
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I have no clue why they even mention the AP poll..


It is mostly because some notable ESPN/ABC "opinion formers" are also voters in the AP poll. SO, they would simply ignore the facts and use the excuse that they use the AP for all of their other programming and promotions, so it is easier to stay consistent and use it for the BCS countdown also. It is called "intellectual dishonesty" and there is absolutely no hiding the fact that they are aware of this and are hoping no one calls them out on it and shows how stupid it is to mismatch the very name of an entire show with a poll that has been deemed useless in determining the very BCS ratings that allow "BCS Countdwon" to have any meaning at all - it is the definition of arrogance, stupidity - or more likely, both.
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3043 posts
Posted on 10/9/10 at 8:26 am to
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a poll that has been deemed useless in determining the BCS ratings


the AP writers withdrew their poll from being part of the formula because of their:

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arrogance


thinking their poll was worth more or meant more than anybody elses.......this is what makes USC's 2003 AP championship not even note worthy.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/9/10 at 9:01 am to
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I hadn't seen this yet.


I figured some might want to see reasons to believe with all the crap espoused by ESPN this week - damn they were relentless
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