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re: HELENIHI shaking the haters off...
Posted on 5/21/09 at 7:40 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/21/09 at 7:40 pm to Lester Earl
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post some numbers
Ill gladly do some research for 2morrow...but you're saying it's so close in your opinion as far as J Mitch's success against lefties that you need some concrete proof?
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Posted on 5/21/09 at 7:40 pm to rcocke2
If Jared Mitchell's OBP is %250 against LHP then I will concede anything and everything i have said in this thread.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 7:43 pm to HOUbengal
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but you're saying it's so close in your opinion as far as J Mitch's success against lefties that you need some concrete proof?
im saying while he may K a lot, he does against RHP and LHP alike.
he is still getting on base. Overall its %47. I'd say that his OBP vs LHP prob isnt %250 like you clowns are saying. Not with all the LHP we have seen this year.
Im not worried about his AVG vs LHP. Find his OBP for me. Or for the Tiger nation
Posted on 5/21/09 at 7:44 pm to Lester Earl
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he is THAT good against RHP??? lol frick
I think its THAT bad against LHP..at least in the last month. Just like you say DH IS THAT bad in the last half of last year but somehow still had a .300 BA. Anyhow, Ill try to run some numbers. But come on...we have so many left handed hitters, and J Mitch has been horrible the last 3 or so weeks at least against them..why is it such a crazy thing to throw an extra righthanded hitter in the lineup against a lefty? Why so stubborn on this point? When is the last time J MItch was even remotely productive against a lefty? IM not kidding...when?
Posted on 5/21/09 at 7:46 pm to Lester Earl
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I'd say that his OBP vs LHP prob isnt %250 like you clowns are saying
I dont think I said it was .250..but I think I said if it was .275 or better I would apologize even if .275 was still pretty bad...
Im too lazy to look back at my posts... Posted on 5/21/09 at 8:19 pm to HOUbengal
You have to make too many assumption with some of the stats to get too accurate of a number breakdown for Mitchell vs. lefties. It can be done but it will be +/-25% estimate for the righty lefty breakdown. Just seems the scouting report is obvius and we have some guys who could break up all the lefties in the lineup. Why can't Mitchell be taken out?
Posted on 5/21/09 at 8:22 pm to rcocke2
I did go back and check on the myth that DH thrived on OOC pitching and sucked against SEC pitching.
Now...for some reason i couldnt find the stats for the second game against UK...
But other than that game...here are the stats for DH....for BA only.
OOC
12/45 for a .286 BA
SEC
8/19 for a .420 BA
So much for that one...
Now...for some reason i couldnt find the stats for the second game against UK...
But other than that game...here are the stats for DH....for BA only.
OOC
12/45 for a .286 BA
SEC
8/19 for a .420 BA
So much for that one...
Posted on 5/21/09 at 8:26 pm to TheDoc
Sometimes there is more to a coaches decisions than just stats
Posted on 5/21/09 at 8:29 pm to HOUbengal
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I dont think I said it was .250..but I think I said if it was .275 or better I would apologize even if .275 was still pretty bad... Im too lazy to look back at my posts...
Strangely enough, it seems as though LSU has stopped posting the against LHP batting analysis. The last posting was prior to the Ole Miss series. Mitchell was hitting over .300 against LHP at that point and .368 overall.
I would guess that Mitchell's OBP against lefties is somewhere around .350 given that his overall OBP is about .450.
This post was edited on 5/21/09 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 5/21/09 at 8:33 pm to moneyg
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Strangely enough, it seems as though LSU has stopped posting the against LHP batting analysis. The last posting was prior to the Ole Miss series. Mitchell was hitting over .300 against LHP at that point and .368 overall.
Prior to OM was only 2 SEC series into the season...
Posted on 5/21/09 at 8:38 pm to moneyg
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I would guess that Mitchell's OBP against lefties is somewhere around .350
I Would bet almost everything I own against J Mitch getting on base more than 1 out of 3 times against lefties for the season. Maybe im just insane...or an idiot...Or just drunk...
Posted on 5/21/09 at 8:55 pm to JmanfromTigerland
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Sometimes there is more to a coaches decisions than just stats
Finally! A voice of reason! How about if everyone reads Carl Dubois' article on the main page and catch this little quote from PM:
quote:
"I've been watching Derek in batting practice every day. He's working hard. He's worked as hard as anybody. He's been swinging the bat great."
So the coaches have access to information that rantards don't because they watch the guys in BP every day -- gee, who'da thunk it?
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:01 pm to HOUbengal
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Prior to OM was only 2 SEC series into the season...
Correct. But, his BA has dropped about 30 points overall since then. It gives you a gauge to estimate.
Like I said, my guess is that his OBP is somewhere around .350 against LHP with a BA somewhere around .250.
I wish LSU would publish this info.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:02 pm to GOP_Tiger
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"I've been watching Derek in batting practice every day. He's working hard. He's worked as hard as anybody. He's been swinging the bat great."
Ya..that's great. But do you really give him a start against a lefty ahead of our best player J MItch? He's been money against lefties the last month...indispensable actually.
This post was edited on 5/21/09 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:03 pm to moneyg
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Like I said, my guess is that his OBP is somewhere around .350
I would bet a lot against that....Ill try to dig up the stats. I would say its alot closer to .300
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:19 pm to Lester Earl
it's not so horrible. 16 hits in 66 AB = .242, 20 hits in 66 AB = .303. So you're saying that 4 more hits in 66 AB changes a hitter from horrible to good?
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:39 pm to HOUbengal
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Ya..that's great. But do you really give him a start against a lefty ahead of our best player J MItch? He's been money against lefties the last month...indispensable actually.
Do I? No. But I don't watch the guys hit batting practice every day, so I'm content to leave that decision to the people who get paid to do that.
I'm not one of those people trying to shut down legitimate discussions here by repeating the mantra that the coaches are smarter than rantards, but I do think it's good to acknowledge that they know stuff that we don't. Some of the stuff in this thread boggles my mind. I get annoyed when rantards brazenly put down our coaches' decisions on the basis of vastly inferior information.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:44 pm to GOP_Tiger
I was being sarcastic....
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:59 pm to HOUbengal
And I'm usually the one telling people to turn up their sarcasm meter ... I'm going to bed.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 10:16 pm to TheDoc
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HELENIHI shaking the haters off...
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