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Head coach winning percentages
Posted on 8/21/10 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 8/21/10 at 11:27 pm
Today:
Miles (.773)
Arnsparger (.750)
Saban (.750)
Les stays at the top after this season unless we go 8-5, which results in:
Arnsparger (.750)
Saban (.750)
Miles (.746)
Miles (.773)
Arnsparger (.750)
Saban (.750)
Les stays at the top after this season unless we go 8-5, which results in:
Arnsparger (.750)
Saban (.750)
Miles (.746)
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Posted on 8/21/10 at 11:30 pm to emanresu
The SEC is about what have you done for me lately......17-9 last 2 years....Losing to bama and florida twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Posted on 8/21/10 at 11:32 pm to emanresu
Statistics are almost pointless unless you look at the big picture. I'm not arguing for or against Les. Just saying that I don't like looking at stats to compare coaches.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 2:17 am to Duckie
quote:
Statistics are almost pointless unless you look at the big picture. I'm not arguing for or against Les. Just saying that I don't like looking at stats to compare coaches.
So what do you use?
Posted on 8/22/10 at 2:20 am to Cornholio
Well if we are only going to use win % then Albert Simmons(.833)and Allen Jeardeau(.875) need to be in the discussion.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 2:25 am to tduecen
or Hal Hunter @ 1.00
Posted on 8/22/10 at 2:28 am to emanresu
SEC Records
Arnsparger, .778, 13-3-2 (4-1-1 + 4-1-1 + 5-1)
Saban, .700, 28-12 (5-3 + 5-3 + 5-3 + 7-1 + 6-2)
Miles, .675, 27-13 (7-1 + 6-2 + 6-2 + 3-5 + 5-3)
or with SECCGs...
Arnsparger, .778, 13-3-2
Saban, .714, 30-12
Miles, .667, 28-14
Arnsparger, .778, 13-3-2 (4-1-1 + 4-1-1 + 5-1)
Saban, .700, 28-12 (5-3 + 5-3 + 5-3 + 7-1 + 6-2)
Miles, .675, 27-13 (7-1 + 6-2 + 6-2 + 3-5 + 5-3)
or with SECCGs...
Arnsparger, .778, 13-3-2
Saban, .714, 30-12
Miles, .667, 28-14
Posted on 8/22/10 at 8:15 am to Doc Fenton
Doc
You just ended this thread!
You just ended this thread!
Posted on 8/22/10 at 8:25 am to Jaketigger
Post this again in Jan 2014.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 8:35 am to tiger4ever18
what have you done for me lately? if that isthe case then frick saban huh? him andhis 13 preseason all sec players in 2004....and we finish like 17th in the nation....lol.....oh my, 17th in the nation with THIRTEEN first and second team media all sec preseasonpicks......of course, either his talent was overrated,orhis coaching was overrated that year...one of the two right? losers
Posted on 8/22/10 at 8:48 am to Cornholio
How stupid of me to think wins/losses should be the measuring stick... man i'm stupid. The more i think about it, yeah, you are right. Screw the wins/losses and championships....those shouldnot be used to measure success....i know, i know...lets use "how well a coach speaks in public as the criteria"...lol....i mean good god...."i don't like to use stats"....lol.......wtf
Posted on 8/22/10 at 8:48 am to CT09
quote:
Post this again in Jan 2014.
why? We will likely have a new coach by then. I have nothing against Miles. If we go 17-9 again over the next 2 years, he won't make it to 2014. That means we lost with a senior QB with 3 years experience.
I do think Crowton will be gone after this year if it is 8-4.
My issue with this staff since is him. He has done the same thing everywhere he has coached. Win early then follow-up with losing. Coaches in the SEC can figure him out like a good hitter will figure out a weak pitcher.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 8:54 am to Jaketigger
ended the thread....lmao...right. I couldmake a post for wins against teams that endedwith a A.....but I choose to put in all the games. There is no debating that LES MILES has a higher winning % than any other coach in the history of LSU that coached at least a couple years of football. In addition, he was the fastest coach to ever reach 50 wins, and gave the Tigers THREE top 5 finishes and a NC. I might add, THREE of the total 7 top 5 finishes.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 9:01 am to tduecen
tduecen is much like nut4lsu on here. great post btw tduecen....coach a few games then claom a great win % and you are the top huh....idiot. I have been coming to this site for a while. There is actually good information you can getif you can wade through the shite people like nuts and laceur and tcueden throw at you. Here is what type of guys they are. They tellyou oh sure, they hope they are wrong....that they hope lsu does great. FAIL. THEY WANT TO BERIGHT. They love this stuff....they are largely negative people in real life and thrive offof negativity. It comes across in every post they make. Trust me, they don't want to be wrong...they want the chaos...it gets them going. Here is an example of how they will be this year. They are all picking the tigers to do poorly...around 7-5 on average. Now, LSU starts out 5-0....then goes to the swamp and beats an overrated florida team to go 6-0 and top 5. Now,these same guys will be on heretelling you the season "ain't over yet". Sure enough, LSU beats bama, but stumples on the road against auburn and arkansas. By virtue of these two losses, they don't get into the SEC Champ game....but they have a very respectable 10-2 season that none of them was even closeto guessing. Afterall, lsu's year is 2011. However, these same posters, instead of saying they were wrong, will be on here blasting miles because he could not close the deal...etc., etc., etc., THAT IS WHAT THEY DO> theythrive off of negativity. period
Posted on 8/22/10 at 9:01 am to DunbartonTiger
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DunbartonTiger
No arguing about the first 3 years. it is about the last 2. Especially in the SEC.
Since reaching 50 with the BEST talent in the nation. (Remember the LL draft year where we had Bowe Landry and Davis drafted in the first round.). These guys were coached-up either before he got there or by their respective position coaches. Those included Fisher, Muschamp and Pelini.
Yes that is about having a good suporting staff. That responsibility lies with the Head Coach.
He had arguably the best supporting staff at that time considering both Fisher and Muschamp and Pelini are either head coaches or will be soon.
With that said, the HEAD coach gets ALL of the praise when things are going great - hence quickest to reach 50 wins - and ALL of the blame when they are not.
Have you ever been a coach or an assistant? if so you would understand this point.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 9:10 am to Jaketigger
coached up BEFORE. PLEASE. They were RS freshmen...and I'm talking the ones that miles didn't bring on board. Miles had plenty of his players on the team making major contributions when they won the title. Saban had loads of talent at bama...don't kid yourself.Even though they went 6-6...they had a LOT of talent that played key rolls in the NC that was there PRIOR to saban arriving. Speaking of saban's coaching/talent...what about 2004...THIRTEEN preseason all sec players...THIRTEEN...andthey finished 17 in the nation with a bowl loss to iowa. BUT HELL, THAT WAS SABAN>>>we overlook that. The guy had a couple down years largely due to qb...LARGELY. Pelini's defense stunk in the second half of 2007 btw...i don't know what the frick all the Pelini shite is.......muschamp and fisher have NEVER coached a game as head coach......this makes you look very ignorant when you talk about how great coaches arethat have NEVER coached. Miles MIGHT win big this year, he might not. If he doesn't it is time to go....but I give the guy a HUGE pass after everything he has done at LSU and given the qb situation. There is nobody that wants lsu to win and win big more than me. But I also understand the big picture and things to line up perfectly every year...in fact they rarely do. Les is a quality guy....i personallyhopes he wins the championship then tells lsu to go frick theirselves after all the criticism. I think you guys are going to find out it isn't always easy to replace a coach who wins and recruits very well.......the grass ain't always greener i assure you.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 9:20 am to DunbartonTiger
quote:
muschamp and fisher have NEVER coached a game as head coach......this makes you look very ignorant when you talk about how great coaches arethat have NEVER coached. Miles MIGHT win big this year, he might not. If he doesn't it is time to go....but I give the guy a HUGE pass after everything he has done at LSU and given the qb situation.
You are ignorant b/c you didn't read my post. I said 2 were head coaches. I know Muschamp is a coach in waiting FWIW. I did watch a tough NE Defense hold texas down with McCoy in the Big 12 championship game FWIW - something Bama couldn't hardly do with a second string QB.
HOWEVER, as with children, it is about what is IN PLACE at the time as far as work ethic and coaching when Miles arrived. In 2004 LSU was in a worse situation at QB. Saban NEVER had a QB after Rohan that he really trusted - why russell really didn't play that year. That is his fault. I do NOT argue this.
BTW - he would and should have had the Iowa game with would have raised is winning percentage as you may recall. Ref's took that one on the last play of the game.
The current QB situation IS LM fault. HE IS THE HEAD COACH!
I don't give anyone making 4 Million dollars a year a "PASS" when my daughter goes to a school where the professors are being fired!
This post was edited on 8/22/10 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/22/10 at 9:38 am to tiger4ever18
quote:
The SEC is about what have you done for me lately
I like where LSU is... college football has its ups and downs...
you 13?
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:15 am to Flyin Tighas
quote:
quote:
The SEC is about what have you done for me lately
I like where LSU is... college football has its ups and downs...
you 13?
Even if this person is 13, he is correct. This is not only the case for LSU. Just ask Tommy Tubberville. Here is a guy who went undefeated and was fired 3 or 4 years later.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:17 am to Jaketigger
You are right...the current qbsituation is because of Les Miles. He has character and Morals and didn't want that thug onhis team.....and trust me he KNEW they would struggle because of that decision.Youthink most SEC Coaches make that decision. There are many who say he should have let the kid stay. Ilike what Miles stands for though and it will make it that much sweeter when they have a very good season this year, and greatonenext year.
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