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re: Hate feeling like I have to root against LSU to avoid Frank as HC

Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:32 am to
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Right, I'd argue it's harder.


absurd
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:32 am to
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Your constant need to claim mental superiority is a red flag man. Maybe you’re just not as smart as you think. If Frank takes that team and out schemes and out coaches on the road at Bama and OU, he should have a shot against the other candidates.

And shows he would've been a better choice for HC than Mr. 10yr/$95M
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:32 am to
Christ. The fact that we already have numerous complete morons advocating that he should get a look if he beats Bama in this very thread is concerning. I had hoped we learned our lesson with Ed Orgeron, but sadly, it seems some of our fanbase still requires helmets.
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:33 am to
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honestly think they could talk themselves into well NIL is the most important thing now. the reality is having a strong X’s and O’s coach has never been more important.


Not gonna happen - O ruined any chance of Frank getting this job (it’s too soon)
Posted by White Tiger
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:33 am to
Verge and Frank. The dynamic duo...

Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:33 am to
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i never claimed such, just pointed out the very obvious flaws with promoting a coach who has a losing record at lower levels of the sport when there are many many many much more qualified candidates you could hire.

All of this would actually mean something to us if we didn't do the same thing with O and end up having the single best season in college football history
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:33 am to
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Christ. The fact that we already have numerous complete morons advocating that he should get a look if he beats Bama in this very thread is concerning. I had hoped we learned our lesson with Ed Orgeron, but sadly, it seems some of our fanbase still requires helmets.


bingo
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:34 am to
i’ve already addressed how flawed that line of thinking is. scary how many think like you do.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:34 am to
Totally different vibe

It was very clear O helped ouster Les and then began his sales pitch to the former players, money guys, and fans. It was a sales job/con from the start

Frank seems to just genuinely want to do a good job. Naturally he’d take the job if offered but I don’t think that’s his goal
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:35 am to
Franks only job is to recruit New Orleans and he doesn’t do that well
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:35 am to
And your line of thinking that 19-29 at UTSA is a referendum of how he'd do at LSU is also very flawed. Something to ponder.
Posted by TooncesLeftNut
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:38 am to
Once someone is convinced that everyone who disagrees with them is dumber than them the point of debate is gone. He has no intention of trying to understand another viewpoint. Just pull for the tigers regardless of who is at coach. The thought of rooting against your own team to avoid someone getting hired is mental illness.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:38 am to
i hope you’re right
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:39 am to
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And your line of thinking that 19-29 at UTSA is a referendum of how he'd do at LSU is also very flawed. Something to ponder.


A program like LSU should never hire based on emotion, and hiring Frank Wilson because he won a few games as an interim head coach would 100% be based on emotion. It's that simple. Ask yourself, if Brian Kelly was fired AFTER this season, would Frank Wilson get a legitimate look at the job. If the answer is "no," then whatever he does in the next four games should not matter.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:41 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:40 am to
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Once someone is convinced that everyone who disagrees with them is dumber than them the point of debate is gone


there are plenty ideas for coach i wouldn’t agree with but would listen to counter arguments on. Drink is one for example.

this is different, the resume is so far below standard for who we should be looking at it should not be considered. that some want to brush that aside is shocking
Posted by TooncesLeftNut
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:42 am to
Why should him winning 2 huge games on the road (that Kelly throughout his career proved he couldn’t win, yet was still hired) in the SEC and getting LSU into playoff contention not matter?
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:42 am to
I definitely still agree we should have an extensive, legitimate search for HC regardless of how November goes. But it's absolutely asinine and bitchmade to root against LSU just so that Wilson wouldn't have a chance at HC. No, we shouldn't hire Wilson full-time just for winning out the season (or 3-1), but he'd certainly deserve a real look. And with our new "contract requirement" for HC's, maybe he's the best candidate we'll get
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:43 am to
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And your line of thinking that 19-29 at UTSA is a referendum of how he'd do at LSU is also very flawed.


How is it flawed? Most of the coach who do WELL at the G4 or below levels fail at major programs like LSU as it is. You want to hire someone who couldn’t win in a less competitive, easier to manipulate environment? Why?

The burden of period is on you to show such overwhelming results in other areas so as to put that record aside.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:44 am to
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And with our new "contract requirement" for HC's, maybe he's the best candidate we'll get


You can always hire Kevin Sheppard who is up and coming at a higher level, not a failure at a lower one
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:45 am
Posted by ibleedpurpleandgold.
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:46 am to
He could lose all of the rest of the games and there would be an excuse to hire him by our new AD
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