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re: Has Ensminger’s $50k bonus been discussed yet?

Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23077 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:27 pm to
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You don’t think Wisconsin and Auburn could be classified as part of the meat of a schedule?


No. According to RB10 in a thread a while back, starting the season off 4-0 is something LSU does on the regular.

We still had to face Ole Miss, Alabama, Florida, and Arkansas. Both Arkansas and Florida, no matter the rankings always give us a close game. That would be the meat of the schedule in my opinion.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4697 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:27 pm to
Because we ran for 390 yards on Arkansas and 311 on Ole Miss. Les wasnt in the business of losing games he ran for more than 200 yards in
Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:27 pm to
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I generally respond in kind. Most of the posters you see me responding to have done their share of calling me names. In fact you're using selective memory. Why aren't you calling out the people calling me names? I'll give you some credibility when I see you saying something about the constant insults directed at me. Until then you're just white noise. Good day.



But here’s the thing, you can change them all. You are the one constant. You alone have the ability to rectify all of it yet you choose to fight vitriol with more vitriol. Even towards me who only pointed out just how much name calling you actually do on here. If the things you present on here are factual, they will speak for themselves and there is no need to get into name calling. Maybe you are correct, but you lose credibility when you resort to name calling.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:27 pm to
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2015 Arkansas, Ole Miss and Alabama were 3 straight weeks of losses. Why are you assuming that Miles would have beaten Ole Miss and Arkansas in 2016? Just because O did?




2015 Arkansas won 8 games. 2016 won 7.
2015 Ole Miss won 10 games. 2016 won 5.

Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23077 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Facts aren’t and I am Not disagreeing with the facts but the conclusion your drawing from them that we were lesser because we didn’t go 10-3 is disingenuous


Thats not my argument.

Going 13 wins, to 11 wins, to 10 wins to 8 wins is my statement. Thats going in the direction that no LSU fan wants correct?
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23077 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:29 pm to

2015 Arkansas won 8 games. 2016 won 7.
2015 Ole Miss won 10 games. 2016 won 5.


So whats your argument? Miles lost to them the previous year but we can now chalk up automatic wins the next year?
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4697 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Going 13 wins, to 11 wins, to 10 wins to 8 wins is my statement.


But then we went to 9 wins.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23077 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:31 pm to
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You left one off at the end there. I wonder why.



because you got away from debating the actual topic.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:32 pm to
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No. According to RB10 in a thread a while back, starting the season off 4-0 is something LSU does on the regular.


Does this somehow prove that Miles wouldn't have won games in 2016?

What a ridiculous statement.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23077 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:32 pm to
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But then we went to 9 wins.



Wasnt your original statement that started this debate "because we had a coach that won 10 games on a fairly regular basis?

Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4697 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:32 pm to
They were automatic wins because they literally couldnt stop us from running the ball. How many games did Les lose when the offense ran for more than 300 yards?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:33 pm to
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So whats your argument? Miles lost to them the previous year but we can now chalk up automatic wins the next year?


No less ridiculous than using 1/3 of a season to claim a downward trend.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4697 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:33 pm to
No that wasnt my original statement. But we've basically replaced Les with the same exact coach but this time we are suppose to be happy with it
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23077 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:34 pm to
That statement was to a poster debating the first 4 games was the meat of the schedule. I disagreed. I figured you would at least agree with that.


has nothing to do with 2016 wins that everyone assumes that Miles would have one,even though he lost to them the year before.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:35 pm to
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because you got away from debating the actual topic.


You used his final two seasons to try and justify a point. Then, later in the thread you had to leave off his final seasons because it completely obliterated the bullshite you were trying to spew.

You're out of your depth.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67709 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:36 pm to
my issue was more of a plateau than a downward slope.

Like we weren’t 2 seasons from a losing season.

We just we’re getting over the hump
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Then 9


That was the equivalent of a 10 win season.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:36 pm to
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No less ridiculous than using 1/3 of a season to claim a downward trend.


The three game losing streak in Nov 2015 (non competitive games) and the two losses in 4 games 2016.

That would most likely get anyone fired at LSU.

Plus havng Anthony Jennings and Brandon Harris as your QB got 2 years
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:36 pm to
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has nothing to do with 2016 wins that everyone assumes that Miles would have one,even though he lost to them the year before.


What does the year before have to do with 2016? You think Ole Miss winning half as many games means they were going to beat LSU?
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4697 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:38 pm to
They were different teams. They were historically bad run defenses.

Arkansas ended the 2015 season as the 12th rushing defense.
They ended the 2016 season as the 93rd rushing defense.

Ole Missed ended the 2015 season as the 24th rushing defense.
They ended the 2016 season as the 119th rushing defense.
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