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re: Has Ensminger’s $50k bonus been discussed yet?
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:40 pm to RB10
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:40 pm to RB10
No because you picked that one post and ran with it.
I said Miles was trending down. Im trying to look at the whole body of work here. You want to wipe away anything on the books before that just because I said trending down, and you want to disprove my "trending down statement" to try and discredit the whole post. If you really think the program under Miles was trending up you are retarded.
O's whole body of work at LSU is pointed upward. He has won more games each year. Of course there are questionable losses that I dont think Miles would have lost to. I;s also not going to give Miles credit for wins wither.
read the entire thread
I said Miles was trending down. Im trying to look at the whole body of work here. You want to wipe away anything on the books before that just because I said trending down, and you want to disprove my "trending down statement" to try and discredit the whole post. If you really think the program under Miles was trending up you are retarded.
O's whole body of work at LSU is pointed upward. He has won more games each year. Of course there are questionable losses that I dont think Miles would have lost to. I;s also not going to give Miles credit for wins wither.
read the entire thread
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:42 pm to PaperTiger
“No”
I believe I said part of the meat of a schedule. I think most reasonable people would list Wisconsin and Auburn as having some meat.
It’s not all that unusual for LSU football to start the season 4-0 or 5-0. That’s why the clamor on the rant used to be, don’t tell me what you’ve done in Sept., tell me what you did in Nov. That seems to have changed with some for whatever the reason.
I believe I said part of the meat of a schedule. I think most reasonable people would list Wisconsin and Auburn as having some meat.
It’s not all that unusual for LSU football to start the season 4-0 or 5-0. That’s why the clamor on the rant used to be, don’t tell me what you’ve done in Sept., tell me what you did in Nov. That seems to have changed with some for whatever the reason.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:43 pm to RB10
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No less ridiculous than using 1/3 of a season to claim a downward trend.
How is this ridiculous? Miles wasnt the first coach to get fired after a slow start to the season.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:44 pm to PaperTiger
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No because you picked that one post and ran with it.
I said Miles was trending down. Im trying to look at the whole body of work here. You want to wipe away anything on the books before that just because I said trending down, and you want to disprove my "trending down statement" to try and discredit the whole post. If you really think the program under Miles was trending up you are retarded.
You said final 2 years. Then, when you realized his final 2 years weren't a downward trend you decided to expand the criteria to meet your needs.
That's called moving the goalposts.
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O's whole body of work at LSU is pointed upward. He has won more games each year. Of course there are questionable losses that I dont think Miles would have lost to. I;s also not going to give Miles credit for wins wither.
Sure. O's whole body of work over 2 years is an upward trend. Just like Miles' final 2 years were actually back on an upward trend, even though you claimed they weren't.
I'm glad we were able to clear that up.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:45 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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It’s not all that unusual for LSU football to start the season 4-0 or 5-0. That’s why the clamor on the rant used to be, don’t tell me what you’ve done in Sept., tell me what you did in Nov.
I 100% agree with this. Which is why after a 2-2 start, that is when the decision to make a coaching change happened.
I cant remember but Wisconsin was ranked but Auburn wasnt correct?
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:46 pm to RB10
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You said final 2 years. Then, when you realized his final 2 years weren't a downward trend you decided to expand the criteria to meet your needs.
Ill spell it out for you next time. I figured common sense after I said 13 wins, 11, wins, 10 wins, 8 wins you would get my argument.
Thats not moving the goal post at all
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:46 pm to Greace
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Arkansas And Ole Miss
The problem is they beat us by a lot of points. Both of them.
We averaged 16 pts of affense a game all November 2015c
In the three losses we were outscored 99-47
The game we won we score 19
2016, scoring offense was bad. In the two losses we scored 14 and 13 points
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:46 pm to PaperTiger
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How is this ridiculous? Miles wasnt the first coach to get fired after a slow start to the season.
Ok man I'm done.
8-5 to 9-3 is a downward trend for Les Miles.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So we wouldn't of beaten them in 2016 even with Les coaching?
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:48 pm to RB10
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O's whole body of work over 2 years is an upward trend. Just like Miles' final 2 years were actually back on an upward trend, even though you claimed they weren't.
See this is the problem. All I was trying to do was use the whole body of work for each coach. Not just 100% of O and 20% of Les, like I stated in a previous post. Guess you missed that one.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:48 pm to RB10
Glad you are done.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:48 pm to PaperTiger
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I figured common sense after I said 13 wins, 11, wins, 10 wins, 8 wins you would get my argument.
Common sense is using 4 seasons to illustrate a downward trend, but ignoring the final season that had reversed it?
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:51 pm to PaperTiger
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His last 2 years were sub 10 wins seasons. He was trending down and showing no signs of getting better starting the next year 2-2 before hitting the meat of our schedule.
You went from using his last two years to.
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9-4 to 10-3 is up. a 10 win season to 8-5 is trending down.
Using his 2013 to 2014 as his last two years
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:51 pm to PaperTiger
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See this is the problem. All I was trying to do was use the whole body of work for each coach. Not just 100% of O and 20% of Les, like I stated in a previous post. Guess you missed that one.
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His last 2 years were sub 10 wins seasons. He was trending down and showing no signs of getting better starting the next year 2-2 before hitting the meat of our schedule.
Your words, no one else's. Now you're just lying.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:51 pm to Greace
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So we wouldn't of beaten them in 2016 even with Les coaching?
The way the offense was playing, who knows?
Losing 5 of 9, averaging about 14 points a game in those losses will tend to get you fired.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:52 pm to Greace
My fault. I got your statement and Lonnie's mixed up.
Lonnie's original post was:
This is what I had originally responded to
Lonnie's original post was:
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Coach O has done a good job, but acting as if 5-3 in the SEC or 10 wins is anything special for LSU football is strange cause the guy we fired 3 yrs ago did that and more on a fairly regular basis.
This is what I had originally responded to
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:53 pm to RB10
Thought you were done
Then what did I say after that. I agreed that we would have beaten McNeese. Then I said I was only posting the record on the books.
Then what did I say after that. I agreed that we would have beaten McNeese. Then I said I was only posting the record on the books.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Losing 5 of 9, averaging about 14 points a game in those losses will tend to get you fired.
None of this has anything to do with what im talking about. Would Les Miles win or lose against 2016 Ole Miss and Arkansas. Les would of ended the 2016 season with exactly the same record as O ended up with
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Losing 5 of 9, averaging about 14 points a game in those losses will tend to get you fired.
The only teams o played that were as good as Wisconsin and Auburn were bama and florida...
Posted on 1/10/19 at 1:54 pm to DesenselessPlayer
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But here’s the thing, you can change them all. You are the one constant. You alone have the ability to rectify all of it yet you choose to fight vitriol with more vitriol
I've explained in this thread that I've laid off the cursing and name calling. It's incredibly difficult but I'm working on it.
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when you resort to name calling
Is it really resorting to name calling when shite is flung at me constantly? People cheerfully lie about me everyday on this board. Then have the nerve to call me a liar over some of the weakest shite ever. You can down me all you want. You can look down on me and think what you want about me but I plan on defending myself on this board. While I won't be nearly as vicious I still plan on defending myself.
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