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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:23 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:23 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
He's not a joke, but that doesn't make him a commodity in the SEC. There's a lot of middle ground in between joke and elite coach.
Look, he is a great recruiter. But thus far that's the only certainty about him. Recruiting by itself doesn't make you a great HC.
No one will hire him for anything other than position coach that if he does nothing here. Everyone is not cut out to be a head coach.
Look, he is a great recruiter. But thus far that's the only certainty about him. Recruiting by itself doesn't make you a great HC.
No one will hire him for anything other than position coach that if he does nothing here. Everyone is not cut out to be a head coach.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:24 pm
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:21 pm to Goldrush25
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Everyone is not cut out to be a head coach.
Excuse me for butting in on an endless thread, but it's something that people get wrong over and over and over.
When you say everyone is not cut out to be a head coach, you're saying NO ONE is cut out to be a head coach. What you actually meant to say is NOT EVERYONE is cut out be a head coach.
Big difference. Carry on.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:32 pm to Goldrush25
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Look, he is a great recruiter. But thus far that's the only certainty about him. Recruiting by itself doesn't make you a great HC.
No one will hire him for anything other than position coach that if he does nothing here. Everyone is not cut out to be a head coach.
Completely disagree. Recruiting is huge. And he has wised up and now has a very solid DC, and has improved (and maybe optimized) the OC position with the addition of Brady.
He made his major blunder at Ole Miss by trying to run everything. No way he does that again. A lot of HCs never learn to delegate.
If he posts another top-10 AP finish, with his almost certain top-10 recruiting class, he'll be on almost every HC short list in the nation. TITTB
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Not if he wants to win championships, IMO. And now that Woody is gone, I doubt he will have as much admin support from the new regime. He could easily lose 5 games in '19. If he does lose 5, he may look for a new place to hang his hat.
It's a great gig for Jimbo.
If Woody gives him the same deal at LSU that Woody gave him at A&M, why wouldn't he leave?
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:47 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Completely disagree. Recruiting is huge
Like I said, he's been a dynamite recruiter for years and even Syracuse passed on giving him an interview for HC. He's not seen as a commodity at HC, even now. Him getting the job here was the perfect storm. He manipulated an idiot AD, convinced the locals that he's one of them, and promised to bring the best OC into the program.
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And he has wised up and now has a very solid DC
Aranda was already here when he got the job.
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and has improved (and maybe optimized) the OC position with the addition of Brady.
Well if he hits on this hire then he's not going anywhere in the first place.
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he'll be on almost every HC short list in the nation. TITTB
Nah. There were a specific set of circumstances that work in his favor at LSU. No other fanbase would take him as a HC.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:48 pm to Damone
U so mad
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:50 pm to Goldrush25
The man has never had a Head Coaching or Coordinator offer in his entire life but now every school wants him. Lmfao Buckeye is the village idiot.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:51 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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And he has wised up and now has a very solid DC, an
Seriously? I could swear Aranda was already here.
It is statements like this that convince me that you don't actually watch LSU football at all.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:52 pm to KennesawTiger
Reality doesn’t matter to simple joe, he just makes it up as he goes along.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:59 pm to KennesawTiger
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120 pages.
This thread will have a lot of everything.
Over halfway there lmao
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:59 pm to Goldrush25
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Like I said, he's been a dynamite recruiter for years and even Syracuse passed on giving him an interview for HC. He's not seen as a commodity at HC, even now. Him getting the job here was the perfect storm. He manipulated an idiot AD, convinced the locals that he's one of them, and promised to bring the best OC into the program.
Two years ago, you'd be 100% correct. But now Orgeron is a hot commodity everywhere except (apparently) Baton Rouge.
How many AP top-10 coaches (with top-10 recruiting classes) are available in any given year? 1 or 2 at the most. Some years, none.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:14 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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You are clueless
You're the one who said Meyer was to blame, partially for the loss tOSU received from Purdue but the main reason, according to you, was on Urban for letting Ryan Day have full reign of the offense at tOSU. Why would Meyer do that? Oh, right, Ryan Day was the OC at the time.
Guess he should've given the keys for the offense to a more fitting coach, like the special teams coach, the S&C coach or something along those lines.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:19 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Buckeye Jeaux
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I don't care that much about a QB's stats
Yeah ok.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:24 pm to dgnx6
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don't know if it was pushed on Orgeron, but they clearly didn't share the same vision on offense.
I don’t think O had a vision for the offense. 1 day he said he wanted an RPO uptempo, then run out I with more WR sets. Finally he settled on “I want to run the USC offense from early 2000s”.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:26 pm to Stevo
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We're all glad Canada is gone, and this is not news.
Canada was terrible. He was the OC the only time LSU scored against Bama under O
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:28 pm to Goldrush25
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Everyone is not cut out to be a head coach.
There are literally hundreds of them who post on this board every day.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:33 pm to GeeOH
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Argue away, but the O hire is turning into being a home run..if he wins 10 this year.
How so? It’s basically still the status quo from the last coach. Far from a homerun hire. 10 wins will be somewhat underachieving. Beat bama or win 11 games, or win the west, finish higher than 3rd in the west.
This is THE year. No more fricking excuses. He has his “dream staff” and his players now. Atleast score a point against Bama.
Have the goal posts shifted yet again? Is this no longer “the year” or has it been pushed back to 2021 or indefinitely?
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:43 pm to Four Leaf Tayback
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He was the OC the only time LSU scored against Bama under O
That run by Darrell Williams to set up LSU's only TD out of that Wildcat-ish look was the longest running play LSU has had against Bama since Saban has been there.
Think about that for second.
But yeah ok Canada sucks because O didn't like him.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:44 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Two years ago, you'd be 100% correct. But now Orgeron is a hot commodity everywhere except (apparently) Baton Rouge.
How many AP top-10 coaches (with top-10 recruiting classes) are available in any given year? 1 or 2 at the most. Some years, none.
If you ask Syracuse to choose between Dino Babers and the HC here, they pick Babers every day out of the week. Hell, I think the majority of LSU fans pick Babers.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:44 pm to la_birdman
quote:In the '17 season, Meyer, co-OC Wilson, and Day shared in the design of the offense, the game plan and the play-calling. Day was offered several gigs including an NFL OC position (Titans). Day agreed to stay at OSU but only if he had autonomy as OC.
You're the one who said Meyer was to blame for letting Ryan Day have full reign of the offense at tOSU. Why would Meyer do that? Oh, right, Ryan Day was the OC at the time.
Meyer and the AD yanked Day's "keys" after the horrible loss to Purdue - Day called 73 pass plays that game - 73
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