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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.

Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:24 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:24 am to
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Lmao his response to the facts that crushed his ignorant bullshite was to post the passing yards and rushing yards from a few of Ed Orgerons team




I saw that.
it's like he doesnt understand the difference between pass/run play call ratio and yards gained ratio.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70492 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:25 am to
His average pass attempts per game for his career is one tenth more than Les Miles but “he’s a pass heavy coach who favors those championship USC offenses” even though not a single one of those teams threw more than they ran. Lmfao between he and Buckeye I’ve never seen two people who are literally wrong about everything they say. All these two do is make shite up and pray it’s true.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 12:33 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:27 am to
“it's like he doesnt understand the difference between pass/run play call ratio and yards gained ratio.”


Lol it’s like he doesn’t know that damn near every major program in the country averages more passing yards than rushing yards. The average pass play is about double the average run play but he still believes it’s 1982 for some reason. Not only that Rick, he called 2017 “the outliar” but the 2018 offense ran the ball at exactly the same rate: 2017- 43.3 attempts per game, 2018- 43.0 attempts per game. Lmfao he’s the kindve guy who just makes shite up hoping nobody will check the facts on it.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 12:36 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70492 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:30 am to
Dunno why I even tried to be civil with that Tosser. He’s a lying scumbag and as ignorant about football as can be. I had to work overtime to keep it clean with Ben but eventually it paid off and things didn’t get ugly. But with first kunt you can forget about it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48231 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:36 am to
the sad part is he is always telling people they dont know football all the while he doesnt know the correct statistics to post to support his stances.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70492 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:40 am to
When someone like him is dismissive of another person it’s a suppression tactic. He’s trying to big league bluff people by putting off an air of knowledge and arrogance to conceal his ignorance with the hope that it’ll scare people off and shut them up. But like any bully all you have to do is stand up to him and as long as you have the facts with you he’ll tuck tail and run just like he did today.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 12:44 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70492 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:45 am to
One thing you can always tell of the propaganda pushers compared to objective fans, the pushers want to shut people up and end the conversation the objective posters invite discussion, debate and opinions.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 12:46 am
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:15 am to
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One thing you can always tell of the propaganda pushers compared to objective fans, the pushers want to shut people up and end the conversation the objective posters invite discussion, debate and opinions.


Don’t confuse propaganda pushing with having enough common sense to walk away from people who lack intellectual honesty and refuse to accept facts.

LSU’s 2017 offense:
203.5 passing yards per game
23.1 attempts per game
207.6 rushing yards per game
43.3 attempts per game

There was nearly a 2:1 rushing attempt:passing attempt ratio in 2017. That is an outlier, whether you choose to accept it or not.

ETA:
Maryland 2018 offense:
141.3 Passing ypg
20.1 passing attempts per game
230.3 rushing ypg
40.5 rushing attempts per game

Never let the facts get in the way of MadHominem propaganda.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 6:41 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:13 am to
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There was nearly a 2:1 rushing attempt:passing attempt ratio in 2017. That is an outlier, whether you choose to accept it or not.
Booger McFarland (from the day Miles got fired):
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"For as long as Les Miles has been at LSU, they run the football about 67% of the time"

And
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It's not that they can't throw the football, it's just that Les Miles doesn't want to throw the football

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"the big money boosters finally got tired of it"


From video on ESPN
LINK
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:24 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:21 am to
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objective fans,


Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:21 am to
The Big Money Boosters run the show at almost every big-time program:

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The $15 million dollar buyout clause in Miles' contract will not be a hindrance for TAF, the athletic program's powerful booster club that funds a lot of the athletic programs for LSU, according to the source. "The money is there," the source said.

A booster club paying $15 million for a pretty good football coach not to coach sounds pretty insane. There are much better ways to spend that money. Crazier still is that this is going on while LSU itself is in deep financial trouble. The school was nearing bankruptcy earlier this year, and cuts to higher education across the state keep coming.

LSU's athletic department, however, is thriving. It ranks sixth in USA Today's school revenue database, and brought in $133.7 million last year. Even in a college sports system that vastly exaggerates its expenses, LSU can still report an $11 million profit—and that doesn't even factor in a booster club that can cover everything from facility construction costs to, apparently, coach buyouts.

LSU's athletic department operates completely separate from the university, and its financial health does not rely on the university's financial health. But in college football, where programs are supposedly tied to universities, what are LSU boosters doing giving this kind of money to the athletic department for a silly cause when the university itself is in dire need of donations? Just what you'd expect, mostly.

*It's because the Tigers are really a professional team that just happens to have its name tied to a university.

Pretty much this. LSU is a pro team with a college problem — Pod KATT (@valleyshook)November 23, 2015

*As are nearly ALL major college football programs.

LINK

And I'm not knocking Booster associations. They provide outstanding facilities at almost every college in the country. Without them, college athletics would have pretty much died decades ago.

And within these organizations, there are boosters who contribute just enough to maintain their season tickets, and there are Big Money boosters who contribute multi-millions... guess who runs the show.

This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 7:50 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:31 am to
You’re co flying people disagreeing with you why the boosters wanted miles fired with whether the boosters wanted miles fired.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:49 am to
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You’re co flying people disagreeing with you why the boosters wanted miles fired with whether the boosters wanted miles fired.



It ain't rocket science . Read Booger's comments above. Boosters wanted an offense with a passing game, and Miles wanted to run the ball 2/3 of the time.

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:52 am to
Let's also ignore that through the first four games of 2017 and 2018, LSU averaged nearly the same number of rushes per game, with 2017 actually seeing 1.5 more yards per rush.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:58 am to
Whatever. doesn't change the fact that Miles wanted to run the offense HIS way. The boosters finally said, "See Ya!"
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:59 am to
Why did the booster want a passing game?

Ends justify the means.

It’s not rocket science.

Booger isn’t our Pope.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:59 am to
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LSU’s 2017 offense:
203.5 passing yards per game
23.1 attempts per game
207.6 rushing yards per game
43.3 attempts per game



LSU's 2018 offense:
228.5 average passing yards per game
29.8 attempts per game
173.6 average rushing yards per game
42.2 rushing attempts per game

So they passed the ball an average of six times more per game, but netted only an additional average of 25 passing yards a game. At the same time, rushing attempts per game were nearly equal BUT they averaged less than 34 rushing yards per game compared to 2017.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:00 am to
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Whatever. doesn't change the fact that Miles wanted to run the offense HIS way. The boosters finally said, "See Ya!"

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68275 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:02 am to
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At the same time, rushing attempts per game were nearly equal BUT they averaged less than 34 rushing yards per game compared to 2017.


It’s almost like we had Derrius Guice as our lead back in 2017 and Nick Brossette as our lead back in 2018....
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:04 am to
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It’s almost like we had Derrius Guice as our lead back in 2017 and Nick Brossette as our lead back in 2018....

Yep, a glaring hole on the roster. I can't believe Miles didn't fill it in 2016 or 2017.
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