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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:30 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:30 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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But the OC is ABSOLUTELY responsible for the offense he fields.
There are a lot of football guys on this site. Are you SERIOUSLY taking the stand that the OC is NOT responsible for the offense he fields? Really?
He is, but so is the HC ultimately.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown...
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:31 pm to dukke v
quote:I do know a little about college football. Game day for a ball player is like Christmas morning for a 10-year old. I've never seen a ballplayer not 200% stoked for game day.
You have ZERO clue about the game of college football...……
Now, I have seen offensive coordinators who put their guys out there completely unprepared.
And all an HC can really do is fire the a-hole. Particularly a HC who comes from the D side of the game. Orgeron did that.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:32 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Only an O-Basher would claim otherwise
The responsibility lies with the HC, for any team.
This isn’t exclusive to O. Stop being ridiculous.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:32 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
I swear if Orgeron went outside while it was raining with no umbrella you would blame God that he got wet.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
When the head coach forces the OC to eliminate portions of his offense that’s on the HC not the OC. This isn’t hard to understand and if it wasn’t Buckeye questioning it I would call BS on it because everyone else knows better.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He is, but so is the HC ultimately.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown...
I agree.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:36 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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I do know a little about college football.
Obviously
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:37 pm to The First Cut
“and the record number of big plays? “
That might take some digging but I do remember it was posted or announced when he passed the old record and it was relatively early in the season for a record to fall. The 8th or 9th game was when it happened. I’ll go dig it up but I may take some time.
That might take some digging but I do remember it was posted or announced when he passed the old record and it was relatively early in the season for a record to fall. The 8th or 9th game was when it happened. I’ll go dig it up but I may take some time.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:38 pm to la_birdman
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The responsibility lies with the HC, for any team.
This isn’t exclusive to O. Stop being ridiculous.
So pathetically wrong. Orgeron has the responsibility for the poor hire.
But, The OC has almost total responsibility for the offense, the DC has the same level for the defense, and the ST guy has the responsibility for Special Teams.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:41 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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So pathetically wrong
So the HC has no responsibility for any faults the team may have? That’s what you’re saying?
I’m not talking about O. I’m talking about any HC at any university.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:42 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
“But, The OC has almost total responsibility for the offense, the DC has the same level for the defense, and the ST guy has the responsibility for Special Teams.”
The fact that you believe every collaboration between HC and coordinator is the same proves how little you know about football. Some coaches leave their coordinators free to call games some interject at certain points and some are fully involved with gameplans and playcalling. Hell some HC call games themselves. You really don’t know anything about football beyond the boob tube.
The fact that you believe every collaboration between HC and coordinator is the same proves how little you know about football. Some coaches leave their coordinators free to call games some interject at certain points and some are fully involved with gameplans and playcalling. Hell some HC call games themselves. You really don’t know anything about football beyond the boob tube.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:43 pm to la_birdman
What he’s saying is that a HC has no responsibilities at all once the ball is kicked. Nothing negative can be attributed to Orgeron but boy when things go well he gets all the credit. Typical ignorant double standards from Buckeye.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:44 pm to la_birdman
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So the HC has no responsibility for any faults the team may have? That’s what you’re saying?
He's responsible for the performance of the guys he hires. Canada turned out to be a bad hire, IMO. He was supposed to be bringing an elite passing game. He did the opposite.
O fired him. Case closed.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:44 pm to Madking
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What he’s saying is that a HC has no responsibilities at all once the ball is kicked. Nothing negative can be attributed to Orgeron but boy when things go well he gets all the credit.
Yep. Buckeye must have really loved Les Miles!!!
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:46 pm to Madking
I’m curious if he blames Urban Meyer for the loss tOSU had when Purdue beat the hell out of tOSU last season.
Was that on Urban or was it on Ryan Day? Who shoulders that responsibility?
Was that on Urban or was it on Ryan Day? Who shoulders that responsibility?
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:46 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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He's responsible for the performance of the guys he hires. Canada turned out to be a bad hire, IMO. He was supposed to be bringing an elite passing game. He did the opposite.
My Lord
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:47 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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But, The OC has almost total responsibility for the offense, the DC has the same level for the defense, and the ST guy has the responsibility for Special Teams.
If he were granted full autonomy then you might have an argument. That wasn't the case.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:48 pm to 00 Tech Grad
quote:I did like the guy. But the game on the O side of the ball passed him by. If he had hired a solid passing OC he'd still be at LSU, IM.
Yep. Buckeye must have really loved Les Miles!!!
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:50 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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. If he had hired a solid passing OC he'd still be at LSU, IM.
Les interfered with all his OCs like O did Canada. He let them be the scapegoats until people finally realized where the problem was. Cam Cameron was actually a really good OC until Les started cutting down his plays.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:50 pm to Madking
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Some coaches leave their coordinators free to call games
shite, Holgerson takes his headset off when his team is on defense. But, it's still his responsibility to make sure his players are prepared to play their best and win.
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