re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.

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The issue I have with that, is the offense still had presnap motion, four wide sets and QB runs after game three.

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"I just watched that (Citrus Bowl) game yesterday," Kiffin said. "Watching LSU's offense ... I left Orgeron a message, 'Hey, did you have a bonus in the contract for your offensive coordinator, for every shift he got extra money?'"

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Good luck buddy! You talk out of both sides of your neck.

You nor I have no idea to the extent of him "kicking the door in at the control room and pulling levers." He has total autonomy, get over it!! I'll fire anyone that is insubordinate and disrupts the environment that I'm building to achieve success. I could careless if he was directly or indirectly hired by me. You're either have control to make those decisions or you don't. Apparently, he has that power.

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The CEO or HC should have total autonomy over the day-to-day operations to include handling any subordinate, directly or indirectly, to ensure that the product and team goals are being met. Agree.

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Questions:
Why has there been no other issues with other members of the staff?
Why does Aranda have no problem with him? He does have experience on the Def side of the ball. He would know more about but yet there is no issues with him getting involved there. Funny.

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You're hitting on something without even realizing it. This was actually I think part of the problem. There was a lot of pressure on Ed to produce right away because he was insecure about the position he held because let's be honest, he didn't deserve to be head coach at LSU. Now, he might earn it, but at the time he certainly didn't deserve it. The position was too big for him and the pressure was too high. As soon as any adversity appeared he fell back into his old micromanaging ways that he swore he grew out of. It was a specific stipulation for his hire and he failed to meet it right off the bat. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. But that doesn't mean the old dog can't fake it for a little while.

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"You" can obviously choose to look at it that way or any other way that you want. I know exactly what I'm hitting, when I'm hitting it.

Of course there is pressure to produce continued success and pressure to be better. He wears the backpack of the failures of his previous attempts. Canada was a turd in the punch bowl and was not well-received and you are a complete moron if you believe otherwise.

I wasn't a fan of the hire either but he made the move to keep Aranda and that at least made me feel like he deserved a chance and that at worst would be 1-2 years and Aleva would be gone also. Because I don't know that Aranda would have stayed had anyone else come in. He has outlasted Aleva. He has surrounded himself with a staff that enjoys working with him.

Keep cryin', I enjoy watching you lads whine. He's not going anywhere anytime soon.

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Of course there is pressure to produce continued success and pressure to be better. He wears the backpack of the failures of his previous attempts. Canada was a turd in the punch bowl and was not well-received and you are a complete moron if you believe otherwise.

I wasn't a fan of the hire either but he made the move to keep Aranda and that at least made me feel like he deserved a chance and that at worst would be 1-2 years and Aleva would be gone also. Because I don't know that Aranda would have stayed had anyone else come in. He has outlasted Aleva. He has surrounded himself with a staff that enjoys working with him.

Keep cryin', I enjoy watching you lads whine. He's not going anywhere anytime soon.

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So what you're saying is that the 99% of the time when Saban is not on camera you are confident he is never saying things like that?

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Look, we all make judgments about people.

You make a judgment off of me based on my time on here, and not the 99% of the time you don't see me, yet you're convinced that I'm a sad, miserable soul. And that's fine by me.

So I'm perfectly within my rights to make my judgments about the coaches, ad they're just as valid as say, your judgments about me. You don't have to agree with it, but understand that you make similar judgments as well.

1) Miles got fired because he wouldn't throw the ball - he only threw 34.7% of the time.

2) O got hired with his promise to improve & emphasize passing.

3) In Canada's first 4 games, LSU threw the ball 29.1% of the plays.

4) Not saying Canada was knee-capping Orgeron, but if he was, it would have looked a lot like that.

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What you're doing is making a biased, wild guess.

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Like I said, my judgments are just as valid as yours.

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber   on 5/29/19 at 3:21 pm to Goldrush25

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Look, we all make judgments about people.



What you're doing is making a biased, wild guess.


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Posted by Goldrush25   on 5/29/19 at 3:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber

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What you're doing is making a biased, wild guess. 



Like I said, my judgments are just as valid as yours.

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These 2 posts made me laugh way more than it probably should have

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he has the common sense not to say certain things that may make him come across as insecure

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What?

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He told you what he did in the post-game Troy comments

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No he didn't. He mentioned being involved but not to what extent.

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Geez Roger just google it for goodness sake.


Here O admits to meddling in Canada’s offense

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Well, what you posted has been covered. We understand that.

Presnap movements were less in the Troy game

But nothing else changed, in that game or the rest of the season.