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re: Hannagriff *and now Moscona* going in dry about Alleva's handling of hire

Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by Boudreaux in SF
silicon valley
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

What was the rush to name O the head coach BEFORE the season even ended?


Alt 26, the "rush" to hire had to do with the NCAA recruiting calendar. Yesterday was the beginning of the period of in-home visits with prospects. This period lasts until mid-December. Established coaching staff in place maximizes these opportunities.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:35 pm to
Coffee is for closers
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29569 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:37 pm to
You could have named Orgeron mid week without damaging recruiting, but even then doing your homework and getting the right guy is more important than a week or two in recruiting every single time.

What Joe Alleva pulled this weekend is inexcusable in every sense of the word.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
25970 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

CEO got the job bc he's the best option alleva had.
He'll be just fine.



He wasn't even the best option on staff.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:39 pm to
Exactly. Unfortunately he was the only option Alleva looked at outside of Herman.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Coffee is for closers



Posted by Taurus
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Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:58 pm to
Herman was never coming here, but if he did he would have demanded a clause to let him leave LSU for Texas. That guy was not long term and was a pipe dream.

Major Applewhite as OC is also a pipe dream. Named after a Bama player, wanted to play for Bama, but ended up at Texas where his parents now reside. Being a UT alum, Major is a lock for them as OC.

LSU should have gone after Fleck or insert name other than Herman or Fisher.

But, if Orgeron fails, Aranda appears to be a good fall back.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

But, if Orgeron fails, Aranda appears to be a good fall back.



a good fall back?

if aranda continues on this pace, he will be moving on in 2 to 3 years.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40039 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:05 pm to
Yeah he'll be in the NFL by the time we go searching for a coach again. Who knows if he even wants to be a head coach? He strikes me a behind the scene mad scientist tactician type
Posted by Taurus
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:06 pm to
I think Orgeron is on a very short leash. The pressure on him is huge. He loses 4 or more each of the next 2 years, he is gone.
Posted by mpar98
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
8040 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:17 pm to
Moscona is saying we went "dumpster diving"
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

I think Orgeron is on a very short leash. The pressure on him is huge. He loses 4 or more each of the next 2 years, he is gone.



There is no doubt. I hope we don't have to go there but he has about that, a two year window here.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3041 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:31 pm to
Wrong. Major Applewhite is not allowed on UTs campus. Try again.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:33 pm to
The reality is that no matter the hire, proper negotiating should have taken place. It's not rocket science to know what your job is when hiring a coach. JA had enough time to interview ANYONE who put in a resume AND arrange interviews with any potential rising stars in the coaching world. Even if coach O happens to be the best hire, it still reflects poorly on Alleva and his ability to not make a dumpster fire out of ever situation.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:33 pm to
[Duke Lacrosse]

Exactly - This says all that needs to be said about Joe Alleva. He's still caving in and taking the easy way out. Never should have been hired.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68737 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:36 pm to
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As a fan of CFB, and from observing other major programs year in and year out. Whenever they decide to pull the trigger, it's done quickly, and the new coach is in, with very little fanfare. Remember UGA last year? Richt, a great coach if judged by W-L, and long time coach, was let go, and within a day or so, new coach in place. No changing their minds. Just pull the trigger, get your person, name him, and move on. More often thank not, that seems like the way it's done. All the pieces are in place before you pull the trigger. But with LSU? First, a total cluster by the leaked Miles firing. Then, announcing he's staying. All while talking with Jimbo agent.


what coach (that has a job) would ever take a position in September at another university? This goes above and beyond breaking proper etiquette in hiring/interviewing coaches with jobs. I will wait for you to name one time this has ever happened.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39998 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:36 pm to
We will all look back on this hire and compare it to hiring Nick Saban, if I'm being honest.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
57087 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:36 pm to
playing 80's music all day,
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68737 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:37 pm to
80's is the shite
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
57087 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

80's is the shite



absolutely.
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