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re: Guilbeau's opinion piece digs at Aranda
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:05 pm to LSUDVM1999
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:05 pm to LSUDVM1999
There is a fine line between under achieved and over expected !
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:07 pm to LSUDVM1999
The A&M game was bad, but you really can’t name that many games where you can say Aranadas D underperformed. The guy is amazing at his job, we’re so blessed to have him
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:09 pm to Patches
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LSU finally got rid of that Carpetbagger who never respected LSU.
Who is this?
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:24 pm to Penrod
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No! That's not what we're saying. We're arguing about an article written about our defense. Our offense has nothing to do with this discussion.
Stopped right here. The offense has a lot to do with the defense.
The more points the offense can put up, the more they can dominate the TOP, the more they can force the opposing offense into predictable situations, and the better they perform. So you always have to take the offense into account when you speak about how good the defense can be.
We're fricking DBU. How great would it be if every game we could force every single team to have to throw a ton against our guys to keep up? Seems like that'd be tilting the odds in our favor. We need to put up points so that opposing offenses have to pass to keep up. An offense that plays the field position game because they can't move the ball isn't one that's putting our defense in the best position to succeed.
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:43 pm to lsu2006
Adversity? Well, I dont want to put Aranda down , thats not the point, but there are 2 other phases of the game and it wasnt all Aranda. His defenses have had some lapses though.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:46 pm to ThePaleHorse
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Adversity?
Yes.
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Well, I dont want to put Aranda down , thats not the point, but there are 2 other phases of the game and it wasnt all Aranda.
I know. But his defenses have been the steadiest, most consistent of the 3 phases of the game in his time here. In fact his defenses have been consistently great. When people consider the defense's performance at UF last year to be bad, you know that Aranda would have to be considered a victim of his own success.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:48 pm to weptiger
Aranda is really good at times, but he doesn't blitz enough , and he doesn't go for the kill late in games.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:54 pm to lsu2006
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When people consider the defense's performance at UF last year to be bad, you know that Aranda would have to be considered a victim of his own success.
This. Criticism of his performance often boils down to "not perfect" and "could sometimes be better". I'd almost kill for that to apply to our offense.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:56 pm to Francisco de Chicora
People critical of the defense are almost always making excuses for the offense. The each have a role to play in the success of one another.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:57 pm to MrJimBeam
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OP delete this thread so Guilbeau gets less traffic.
Plot twist....op IS guilbeau
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Doing fine is true but he is paid to be the best
Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:39 pm to mhc4tigers
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Doing fine is true but he is paid to be the best
He wasn't the best when he got the contact, so where does this idea come from?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:09 am to Francisco de Chicora
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This. Criticism of his performance often boils down to "not perfect" and "could sometimes be better". I'd almost kill for that to apply to our offense.
I dont completely agree, but I get your point. Maybe its personnel issues, but we just dont have that shutdown defense anymore. When we need a 3 and out, we dont get it.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:14 am to Old Money
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ion piece digs at Aranda
The A&M game was bad, but you really can’t name that many games where you can say Aranadas D underperformed. The guy is amazing at his job, we’re so blessed to have him
The A&M overtime was bad without 2 of our best DBs
Mond completed one pass before his lucky kneel down to touch the ball
A&M had 124 yds total offense in the 2nd half before that happened
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:18 am to ThePaleHorse
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I dont completely agree, but I get your point. Maybe its personnel issues, but we just dont have that shutdown defense anymore. When we need a 3 and out, we dont get it
Got it against Auburn last year. Got turnovers against A&M and UCF that changed the game
Completely shutdown state
Teams are going to score points. Offensive football has evolved more than defense
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:18 am to LSUDVM1999
I totally agree with Guilbeau about Aranda not being all he was predicted to be. The truth of the matter is our defense has looked very porous at times and that falls on Aranda. We've had too many teams make us look average and that's not acceptable. I know he's very popular among the fans, but the numbers don't lie!
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:20 am to Midtiger farm
LSU had the 5th rated defense according to s&p+ in 2018 on the hardest schedule of 2018.
aranda is earning his money
aranda is earning his money
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:22 am to DmitriKaramazov
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And if Aranda hasn't "earned all of his money," then O and the offensive coaches should be working for free.
Again, I appreciate you not liking O, but why do you say dumb things.
Aranda, the highest paid assistant in college football, compared to the pennies that Ensminger makes. Not even close. Dont dumb down this thread. Say something intelligent.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:24 am to ThePaleHorse
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Aranda, the highest paid assistant in college football, compared to the pennies that Ensminger makes. Not even close. Dont dumb down this thread. Say something intelligent.
Well why don't we just make E the highest-paid offensive assistant so we can get some production out of him finally, since that's how it works apparently?
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 9:25 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:27 am to LSUDVM1999
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OPINION: LSU defensive coordinator Dave Aranda remains popular, but he has underachieved
If and when LSU has a consistently good and productive offense, that will give Aranda a better chance to excel even more as the DC.
I like Aranda, but he's not the be all end all of DC's. LSU's 2 BCSNCG wins came under 2 other DC's, so Aranda can be replaced with another very good DC if he ever leaves.
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