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Posted on 4/26/18 at 5:22 am to Tiger Ree
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Said Clapp, recalling his classmates’ recruitment: “The coaches were saying, ‘We get you in and out. Three-year deal.’ ”
Which is what they should be saying.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:40 am to earl keese
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earl on his knees
When are you going to stop sucking Miles dick.
Seriously. Just stop.
He GOT FIRED and he is not coming back.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:11 pm to Pelican fan99
quote:They want out because after a few years in the program they see no chance of an SEC West/SEC Championship.
All that talent and absolutely zero to show for it. What a shame
They're not interested in Academics/Degrees, so it's the NFL or bust when no SEC Championship is on the radar screen...........
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:52 pm to Tiger Ree
You are point on Ree! I'm hoping this trend ends soon because we need more 4 year players on our tean. Bama and Ohio St are doing this better
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:54 pm to semjase
This has been going on for years! Has noting to do with championships
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:58 pm to bluebengal
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Bama and Ohio St are doing this better
Every P5 team in the nation is doing it better.
People don't understand how much difference a couple players returning to a team can make.
Imagine having Guice and Clapp next year. Or Clapp and Donte, or Clapp and KT2, or any of the other combinations of even just two underclassmen returning. Imagine 3 or 4 returning. That makes a huge difference.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 5:14 pm to Tiger Ree
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magine having Guice and Clapp next year. Or Clapp and Donte, or Clapp and KT2, or any of the other combinations of even just two underclassmen returning. Imagine 3 or 4 returning. That makes a huge difference.
yeah maybe this time around O will only lose to Miss St by 15!!!
Posted on 4/26/18 at 5:27 pm to Tiger Ree
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People don't understand how much difference a couple players returning to a team can make.
You just don't get it.... You realize this team[LSU} will be lucky to win 6 games nextyear...Right????
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:11 pm to LosTigres251
Miles has been gone for 2 years and still has his balls in your mouth. I'm rather impressed.
Not once did I question Ol' Dummy Miles' recruiting abilities. His 1960s offense is what I question and that's what wasted the talent. I'm proud we are NFLSU. But to sit here and say "YEAHHH WE'RE NFLSU!!!" and have little to show for it stings and is a head scratcher. Logic says team with the best players wins most of the time. If we produce the most NFL players then we should be doing better in the post season.
Your QB logic is flawed to say the least. Georgia dragged Jacob Eason from Washington to hand the ball off to Chubb and throw deep balls to unknown WRs. Bama got a kid from the middle of the Pacific Ocean to go to BFE Alabama to sit the bench for 99% of a football season.
Also, by your logic, all the great QBs should be flocking to Baylor, TCU, and the like. Sure, they get gun slingers for sure but you don't see the top-notch QB recruits dying to go to these places either. Miles and Cam couldn't recruit a QB if the second coming of Peyton Manning was playing at U-High. They proved that time and time again.
You keep sipping that Miles kool-aid. Maybe LSU can hire you to shine all of the "We have the most players in the NFL" trophies we have laying around the football ops building.
Not once did I question Ol' Dummy Miles' recruiting abilities. His 1960s offense is what I question and that's what wasted the talent. I'm proud we are NFLSU. But to sit here and say "YEAHHH WE'RE NFLSU!!!" and have little to show for it stings and is a head scratcher. Logic says team with the best players wins most of the time. If we produce the most NFL players then we should be doing better in the post season.
Your QB logic is flawed to say the least. Georgia dragged Jacob Eason from Washington to hand the ball off to Chubb and throw deep balls to unknown WRs. Bama got a kid from the middle of the Pacific Ocean to go to BFE Alabama to sit the bench for 99% of a football season.
Also, by your logic, all the great QBs should be flocking to Baylor, TCU, and the like. Sure, they get gun slingers for sure but you don't see the top-notch QB recruits dying to go to these places either. Miles and Cam couldn't recruit a QB if the second coming of Peyton Manning was playing at U-High. They proved that time and time again.
You keep sipping that Miles kool-aid. Maybe LSU can hire you to shine all of the "We have the most players in the NFL" trophies we have laying around the football ops building.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:20 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:While I do agree with you, fully, I do keep having an argument in my head (that I always win) between that and maybe that distribution was a result of the speed of development by nature of position.
You're right, but the talent was not evenly distributed. There weren't great LTs, DTs, Cs and QBs in there, and those are the most important positions on the field.
They were definitely talented, but not balanced.
Let's take a DB/WR vs. a DT/OT.
A DB/WR that has hit his growth spurt in HS can have an impact his Fr year, be a starter-star-significant impact his second year and by his draft year (3rd) be a household conference name.
A DT/OT needs a year in the weight room just to not get curb stomped. Even those who have had massive prep and as physically ready are inconsistent and struggle some (e.g. Godchaux). 2nd year, if they get physically ready, they take a beating in conjunction with the increased reps (which they are now gaining experience), maybe even limiting those reps thus limiting what is essentially their first year of game experience. By the third year they're starting every game, on par physically with their peers, and have hit their stride.
Just by nature, some positions are 1 yr behind others. But the eligibility rules apply the same. Hence you pipeline for those positions needs to be 1/3 larger, multiplied by the ratio of starting positions. So for an OL (5) vs DB (3), the increase in pipeline size needs to be (5/3 X .33) = 55% "bigger" pipeline for OL than DB, and with increased volume comes more frequent "busts".
Les might not have simply played the numbers based on the nature of the position and productivity over a 3yr lifespan.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:24 pm to ReelTiger1
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Reel (DUMB) Tiger1
Are you a fan of the LSU Tigers?
If so, when are you gonna stop crying like a little schoolgirl over a former head coach and a current head coach who both have National Championships?
All your crying isn't going to change the fact that Miles won 114 games while at LSU and finished his time here with a .770 winning percentage.
All your crying isn't going to change the fact that Mainieri has won 512 games and has a winning percentage of .716% at the start of the currant season.
All those tantrums you throw, post after post, isn't going to change any of that.
You're wasting your time. You should use that time more wisely, like dazzling us with some of those mad math skills you possess.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:26 pm to Tiger Ree
Frank Wilson beating Ed Orgeron in 1st rd picks in 2018
Posted on 5/5/18 at 9:48 am to Rickdaddy4188
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so having the most accomplished tenure in LSU history and one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history during the most dominant era of sec football ever isn't enough for you?
The MOST PLAYERS IN THE NFL. Less with more. Did he or did he not control the offensive coordinators? Was our passing game ranked between 80 and 100 most of those years? Did we win with defense and special teams? Did he have the input into the defense like he did the offense? Was the defense our strength of our team in those years? Last I checked Russel Shepard was still playing in the NFL. How many touches did he have in the 11 NCG? Zero! Until Miles was fired, DJ Chark didn't play much at all. He was a 2nd round NFL pick. Trey Quinn was very productive at SMU and got drafted, but for the most part was a blocking WR in Miles offense. Did Miles have issues with clock management? I could go on for a long time, but I just want to show the trend that Miles set during his years.
Rick, the problem with people like you is all you see is the wins and losses. Not how did you get there. You don't realize that the game is 33% special teams, 33% defense, 33% offense.
When Miles was here the 33% special teams were good. The 33% defense, for the most part, was better than good.
The part that he had the most to do with was the offense, and that 33% was well below average.
He was the problem, I know, BUT WE WON ALL THOSE GAMES.
Miles cost us games. You are not wanting to admit what we left on the table because of the lack of production with the 33% of the offense.
You think Miles would have taken out J Hurts in the NCG this year. With that defense, and those special teams players, and Hurts winning record? You are lying if you say yes. He would have lost instead of doing that. Saban knew he couldn't beat Ga with only 66% of his team. You want proof of this, go back and watch the 11 NCG.
Rick, you and I didn't know how good OBJ and JL were when they were here. We knew they were special, and College talents. But 2 of the top 5 or 6 NFL WR in the NFL today. However, Miles saw them every day. You tell me what College team had 2 CB's that could match up with those 2. I'll help you. NOT A frickING ONE. Remeber when we had Rohan and Reed? Remember that year vs Bama? Rohan threw for 528. Miles would have never done that. Miles is a one trick pony. Have a bigger, stronger offensive line than the defensive line and run the ball. That's not coaching. Coaching his finding a teams weakness and exploiting it.
Rick, You will never admit we won in spite of Miles. You see him as a great guy, a great husband, and a great dad. He is all those things. As a coach, he held back LSU. I criticise him as a coach. Keep telling yourself and everyone that will listen how great Miles was, but remember there is a reason not a single school has given him a serious look after LSU fired him. HE IS AVERAGE AND THEY ALL KNOW IT.
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