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re: Guess what? LSU leads the nation since 2013 - by far.

Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:47 am to
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:47 am to
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Did you even glance at the information provided?


"This is not just an LSU problem."

-Ross Dellenger, from the article you posted.

Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:01 pm to
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If it upsets you so much don't open my threads, it's pretty simple logics involved here.


lol, I opened it to offer up my opinion. It appears it’s my opinion that the top 6 schools on that list have won the last 11 national championships has you upset. (That’s actually not my opinion either, but it nevertheless really bothered you.)

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LSU did not sign a recruit that was NEVER committed to LSU. The haters have to love this Surtain guy. Without him they would have to find someone else that was never committed to LSU to bitch about.


Is this even English? You are so angry right now you’re hardly making sense.

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You obviously didn't see my Badara Traore thread last week.


Nope, sorry. But I’d imagine it went something like this

OP:
Link to article about LSU

11 pages of why O sucks , interspersed with OP, and a handful of others, trying to convince the masses why O needs more time to clean up the mess left behind by Les.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:02 pm to
another tiger ree building excuses for O thread.

Nothing to see here.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:15 pm to
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The haters have to love this Surtain guy

Without him they would have to find someone else that was never committed to LSU to bitch about.




Guy went so far as to say LSU was his favorite for over 2 years. If we took 100 kids that named a certain school their favorite, I'm betting that the overwhelming majority end up signing with that school.

It was a chokejob by Orgeron, the supposed closer. He just can't land the very elite guys. I guess that's our reality now. But as I said, there's a bright side to this; we won't have so many juniors declaring now.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:17 pm to
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lol, I opened it to offer up my opinion


But seem upset that I started the thread? Why can't you do like you said "linking articles about LSU that any LSU fan with an average working knowledge of how google or twitter works can access?" and google the article and give your opinion there?

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It appears it’s my opinion that the top 6 schools on that list have won the last 11 national championships has you upset. (That’s actually not my opinion either, but it nevertheless really bothered you.)


Doesn't bother me at all. The next closest team on the list lost eight fewer players to the draft than LSU. That's a lot of players.

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Is this even English? You are so angry right now you’re hardly making sense.


Don't know why you think I am angry because you cannot read something and comprehend what you read. I was simply stating that Surtain was never committed to LSU. Bama did great getting him but also that Bama lost a 5 and 4 star that were committed to them on signing day. Do you understand that through all of my anger?
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Nope, sorry. But I’d imagine it went something like this

OP:
Link to article about LSU

11 pages of why O sucks , interspersed with OP, and a handful of others, trying to convince the masses why O needs more time to clean up the mess left behind by Les.


You'd have to find it and read it. I don't remember or care how it went. Don't remember the Eaux bashing but it seems that every thread on this board has idiots that do it.

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:18 pm to
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another tiger ree building excuses for O thread.

Nothing to see here.


Another simpleton that can't figure out what they are reading in an article.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:29 pm to
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Guy went so far as to say LSU was his favorite for over 2 years. If we took 100 kids that named a certain school their favorite, I'm betting that the overwhelming majority end up signing with that school.


Yeah and their dream school also, huh? You people freaking out over a player that was never committed and now making it seem like a player saying a school is his favorite is some kind of commitment is funny.

It also has nothing to do with LSU have the most underclassmen declare for the NFL draft by a large margin.

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It was a chokejob by Orgeron


You are pathetic or funny. I'm not sure which one. The recruit was never committed to LSU. Man if LSU if LSU EVER loses a recruit that was committed there will be suicides or murders.

I have forgot the reason for discussing a recruit who was never committed to LSU.

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He just can't land the very elite guys


The #1 WR in the nation is not an elite guy?

You are either just grasping at straws or spouting BS for the attention now. Nobody could really be this stupid.

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But as I said, there's a bright side to this; we won't have so many juniors declaring now


I see at least two that Eaux recruited after this season if they do as good as expected. Fehoko and Lawrence may go along with Alexander. That's just the defensive line. Greedy will probably go also.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68377 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Coach Ed Orgeron and LSU have started using external help in the form of consultants, said Verge Ausberry, deputy director of athletics. They distribute packets of information to underclassmen mulling a leap to professional sports, with specifics to that prospect’s value and how it could increase with a return to college.

“We educate our young men (on) how it works, your value, where you want to go and getting the most out of your value,” Ausberry said. “Just don’t go to the NFL to go to the NFL. You have outside consultants Coach O has used very well and you see the numbers of guys who have come back.”


This seems like bullshite. Players were consulted, received draft grades and still bounced under the last regime. Freak Johnson is one.

And LSU still had plenty of players leave since the coaching change. To the NFL and transfers.

And there were players that stayed for 4-5 years under the last regime as well.

Like posted above, if these guys show out on the defense, they will be gone too.

This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10441 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:40 pm to
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The LSU staff is now trying to stem the tide of early departures.


Again more on average have left early in the last two seasons with O in charge than in the previous 3 years under Les. Nearly 50% more.

It's okay to admit O is a joke, and some of those players left because they saw the writing on the wall.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10441 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:42 pm to
Don't you love how TigerRee likes to ignore statistics and use an outlier to bump his guy up when actual statistical analysis shows his boy has more guys going pro early in his first two years?



2013-2015 seasons had 11 go early. In his two years so far, O has had basically the same amount leave early (10).

That is more on O, not Les at this point.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68377 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:42 pm to
All this shite is propaganda we've heard since Les was fired. Yet Ed still hasn't come through with one fricking thing they have said would be diff from Miles. Not one, he's even running with Miles' hires at the two most important positions.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:48 pm to
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And LSU still had plenty of players leave since the coaching change. To the NFL and transfers


I don't know how many times it was stated in my post and the full article that this begins with the recruiting process. Players at least through the 2016 class were promised the NFL in 3. A majority of the 2017 class was probably told the same thing.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Don't you love how TigerRee likes to ignore statistics and use an outlier to bump his guy up when actual statistical analysis shows his boy has more guys going pro early in his first two years?


I love how people cannot read simple information and comprehend the major point being made.

First two years?

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2013-2015 seasons had 11 go early. In his two years so far, O has had basically the same amount leave early (10).

That is more on O, not Les at this point.


Go back and read the article. If you can't decipher the main theme, let me know and I will type very slowly and try to explain it to you.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:00 pm to
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You are pathetic or funny. I'm not sure which one. The recruit was never committed to LSU. Man if LSU if LSU EVER loses a recruit that was committed there will be suicides or murders.


Is this your new thing now? The fact that he was never committed means he's not responsible for missing on them?

When a guy names you his favorite for 2 years and you miss, that's a chokejob.

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I see at least two that Eaux recruited after this season if they do as good as expected. Fehoko and Lawrence may go along with Alexander. That's just the defensive line. Greedy will probably go also.


Lawrence, Alexander and Greedy are Les's guys brah.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Lawrence, Alexander and Greedy are Les's guys brah.


Eaux was primary recruiter for Fehoko, Alexander and Lawrence. There is not a defensive lineman on the LSU team that Eaux is not responsible for.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Is this your new thing now? The fact that he was never committed means he's not responsible for missing on them?


Is it your new thing that you are going to bitch about Eaux missing out every top 100 recruit in the nation that he doesn't sign? Even if he can't take all 100 of them?

Were you pissed that he missed on the top player from the states of Washington and Arizona this past class?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:29 pm to
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Eaux was primary recruiter for Fehoko, Alexander and Lawrence. There is not a defensive lineman on the LSU team that Eaux is not responsible for.


Oh, so now as recruiting director back then, he's responsible for getting those guys, but he's not responsible for the unbalanced recruiting that caused the depth issues?

Maybe you should log off. Dereck's not going to be happy that you're contradicting yourself and his message.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10432 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:36 pm to
I was thinking of Dupre for sure. How much of his decision to leave was because of the sorry offense? I wonder if Key will amount to anything in the league. He should have stayed as well.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:37 pm to
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Oh, so now as recruiting director back then, he's responsible for getting those guys, but he's not responsible for the unbalanced recruiting that caused the depth issues?


He was the D-line coach dumbass. That is why he was their primary recruiter.

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but he's not responsible for the unbalanced recruiting that caused the depth issues?


As the D-line coach? You can't build depth in a year.

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Maybe you should log off. Dereck's not going to be happy that you're contradicting yourself and his message.


I was going to ask you if you are married and if you are is your wife available. It's much easier to have a conservation with someone who isn't a total idiot and knows even a little bit about the LSU football program.

You don't know what position Eaux held, who recruited what players and probably don't even know how long the HC has been at LSU. Your wife, mother or sister probably knows more than you about LSU.

Go to your team's board and pump them up. LSU has enough idiot fake fans blowing up this board.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10432 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:37 pm to
It helps 'Bama.
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