re: Great article about depth issues..orgeron is definitely facing a challenge..

Shits getting real for the idiots on this board who think we have the players across the board to hang with the big boys. We don't but if he's any kind of HC he can keep this thing together help the young guys grow and compete this year. They will all have to do a better job. I think they know what they have now and will play better knowing that they have to play sound football to complete. There will be mistakes along the way but good coaches find a way to at least keep things close and out smart the other coaches. Let's see what we have.

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I'm useless? I try and be objective.

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Btw I have zero alters...zero.

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Well, not anymore. They have both apparently been banned.

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To answer your question, the guy responsible for most of the young talent we have. It doesn't fit your agenda, but it is obvious where the problem in the trenches occurred, 2014 and 2015. But blame O it is your agenda. Also, the fkn head coach and coordinators are ultimately responsible for the classes....do you even know what a coordinator does? No, you don't. You just took the opportunity to bash O.

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You just simultaneously gave Orgeron all the credit for "bringing in most of the young talent" while absolving him of any blame for the issues with both the offensive and defensive lines.

That's some impressive spin.

I've been called about five different people. I've never had an account on here...believe what you want, and carry on with your daily 24/7 whining and bitching.

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idiots on this board who think we have the players across the board to hang with the big boys.

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Even if we have mediocre talent across the board, the problem with this whole argument, even if you think we are less talented than we have been before....

In 2014, Oregon, Baylor, TCU...all in the Top 10. Are our mediocre recruits that worse than those schools?

In 2015, North Carolina, Iowa, Northwestern.... in the Top 15.

In 2016, Michigan State, Houston....

There's maybe a small chance that our Lines are worse than the schools (and admittedly our schedule is harder), but that much to Miss State?

Does coaching play any factor in this? I feel that the new narrative of "Rebuilding," and "lack of depth," is just removing the burden of coaching from the equation and that that is the ONLY reason for the loss.m Not only that, that reason is a "2-3 Year Fix," which is ludicrous, as if we can't be competitive for the next 2-3 years.

The consensus should be - "There are talent issues, particularly on both lines, however, there's also a pending problem of hiring the wrong guy to redo this and we should be extra critical of coaching over this season in judging the the benefits and potential long term."

Rather than, "This is a rebuilding and will take the next 2-3 years to fix. Keep O for 3 years." If he can't coach himself out of a situation, not to mention the amount of poorly recruited teams who were improved in Year 1 following a coaching change, then he shouldn't have 3 years to try.

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This is on Les Miles

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this post got six downvotes, 1 upvote.


It never ceases to amaze me. the masses used any measure possible to justify miles' firing. now you're on to firing Orgeron, so Miles is non responsible for recruiting woes while he was the head fricking coach?

you people are pathetic and humorous.

We shouldn't have lost that game like we did and wouldn't have if it weren't for all the flags. We may have won that game. That game was an anomaly not the norm. Y'all know that. We haven't seen a game like that from these coaches yet, it just all fell apart in that game.

Also State does have better overall depth and goes to show you what depth can do for a team. It's not just the coaches, I think the players thought that they were better than they really are. When this team is back at full strength and LSU cuts the penalties down this team will compete with anyone.

That's really all you can ask at this point. We will be playing young guys for 3 years but in year 3 we will be much better if our fans don't give up on this deal. Let this thing play out, let this staff get some depth in here and then let's see how we perform with a team at full strength. I bet we perform much better in year 3 BUT LSU will have to out smart some teams this year. There's no excuse because the SEC is way down this year.

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We shouldn't have lost that game like we did and wouldn't have if it weren't for all the flags. We may have won that game. That game was an anomaly not the norm

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Based on Orgeron's head coaching career you are dead wrong. That game was the norm.

His interim record is different, but he's no longer LSU's interim coach. Is he?

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People need to make up their damn minds. Did Miles squander a treasure trove of talent his last several seasons or not? If he did, then the "O doesn't have the horses!" argument is utter bullshite.

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It's somehow both to them. Miles deserved to be fired for squandering talent. Then, he somehow took all that talent with him to ESPN and left the cupboard bare for Orgeron.