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Good passing + Good defense = Elusive in the SEC

Posted on 8/16/18 at 2:55 pm
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10201 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 2:55 pm
In the SEC, it's rare to have a good passing attack paired with a stingy defense. Since 2014, a team that finished in the top 5 in passing yards per SEC game has also finished in the top 5 in yards allowed per SEC game 3 times:

2017 Auburn (7-1 SEC)
2015 Florida (7-1 SEC)
2014 Alabama (7-1 SEC)

All three won their division. What are the chances 2018 LSU is the next team on that list?

For reference, last year we were 10th in passing yards per SEC game and 3rd in yards allowed per SEC game.
In 2016, we were 11th in passing and 3rd in defense.

I think it's a good bet we'll finish top-5 again in defense. Can we improve on 10th/11th in passing yardage? Note that we were already a fairly efficient passing team last year, coming in 5th in QBR and 4th in yds/att. But will we see more volume?

Great site to look up this stuff
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 3:37 pm
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
9238 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 3:03 pm to
maybe we should have Tre'on Harris or Blake Sims as our QB lol
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 3:14 pm to
Good question...and the reason its rare is because a high yardage passing attack usually results in the defense staying on the field more, giving up more yards.

We need more production, thats obvious, but it needs to be efficient and not turn the ball over.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29288 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 3:29 pm to
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What are the chances 2018 LSU is the next team on that list?


Slim to none....did any of those teams break in a brand new QB the year they did it?

ETA I guess Stidham was new....but he wasn't new to starting in a major conference.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 3:30 pm to
TIME OF POSS is the key. throwing it all around leads to 45 second possessions. That will kill any D. Must be balanced and efficient on third down.

Posted by Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
825 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 3:31 pm to
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I think it's a good bet we'll finish top-5 again in defense. Can we improve on 10th/11th in passing yardage?

Cool link you provided. I've looked at that site before but forgot about that feature.

I'm very sure we'll move up from 13th in the SEC in passing attempts per game, and move up from 10th in passing TDs. Getting just 50 yards more per game will move LSU up from 8th to 3rd in passing yardage.

I think a top 5 passing attack is definitely doable. Just have to hope the OLine comes together, and the Tigers are well on their way.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13447 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 3:33 pm to
Aubie was 7-1 in 2017 during the regular season in SEC play.

We gave them their lone SEC regular season loss.
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3361 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 3:42 pm to
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TIME OF POSS is the key. throwing it all around leads to 45 second possessions. That will kill any D. Must be balanced and efficient on third down.

Don't disagree with you at all, but I recall Les Miles' 1970's offenses leading to huge TOP disadvantages in many a first-half of games. It was comical sometimes.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
4448 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 3:56 pm to
Not only that, we went 2-1 against those teams, with the sole loss to Alabama in OT, in a game we had won except for that complete horseshite unsportsmanlike penalty on Vadal Alexander.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4709 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 4:36 pm to
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Tre'on Harris


While Harris did have the most passing yards, Grier had 1200 yds in 5 starts and a 6th game played in which inflated their passing numbers. Harris was awful that year. Yards is a dumb metric to go by: Harris was 10th in the SEC in YPA and Efficiency. For reference, Brandon Harris was 7th in both those categories.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 4:51 pm to
An offense that throws the ball a lot is not conducive to a solid defense. It puts strain on the defense by hurting TOP and having more turnovers.

That is why you need a 50/50 balance like most teams that win at high levels. The passing game has to be a threat downfield, but you still need to run a lot.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 4:59 pm to
Top 5 passing in the entire SEC? That'll be a tall order this season.

Bama has Tua.
Auburn has Stidham.
Missorri has Lock.
OM has Ta'amu.
UGA has Fromm.

Does anyone expect Burrow to out throw those guys?
Posted by The Baker
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 4:59 pm to
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