re: Good or No Good - Virginia Tech Game Winning Attempt edition

I can’t believe your liver is still functioning

It some how is

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To me this is the best angle other than the ref’s. Camera, kicker and goal post all lined up. Kicker thought he hit it.

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That’s a terrible angle that’s skews the view in favor of a make

The further you go back and right of the kicker, the more it’s going to look like it was inside of the post.

I thought we learnt this from 2011 OKST?

If the ball goes over the bars, it must be completely inside the posts for it to be good. If it clips even a little of the plane of the goalposts then it is no good.


In the NFL, this is good.

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The further you go back and right of the kicker, the more it’s going to look like it was inside of the post.

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You’d be correct if this was a center kick from the center of the hash marks. This is a kick towards the left goal post from the right hash. That’s the line of sight you want.

I think the line of sight you'd want would be directly under that goalpost looking up?

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I said in the other thread it was good. For them not to even look at it is a travesty

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This. At least take a look..

Helluva game.

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For them not to even look at it is a travesty

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It was not reviewable.

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That’s the line of sight you want.

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How can you tell from that video where the ball is directly above the left upright? You can't. The only way to know is having a camera below/above the left upright.

Of course the ref’s view was better. Show it. Otherwise my point was the video I posted was a better view than being center for this particular kick. You said angles don’t work that way. Grok agrees with me.

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For a kick originating on the right hash that is drifting toward (or aimed at) the left upright, the single most informative camera position is the one that puts these points as close to collinear as possible:

1. Camera

2. Kicker (or the ball’s release point)

3. Ball’s flight path

4. Left upright

When those line up, left/right becomes a pure binary judgment with almost no parallax. Any significant offset (sideline angle, pure end-zone camera that is centered on the middle of the goalposts, or a high-and-wide broadcast shot) introduces a small but meaningful amount of depth/angle error that makes “just inside vs. just outside / over the post” harder to read.

That’s why, when a truly definitive under-the-post or perfectly aligned behind-the-kicker view isn’t available (as was the case on the ESPN broadcast), the next-best things are:

• Any fan or sideline angle that gets reasonably close to that line of sight (the Nanduri clip is in that category — better than the main TV feed for trajectory tracking).

• The official standing directly under the left upright, who by design is looking up the exact plane that matters.

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