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re: Glen Guilbeau on Crowton-Miles

Posted on 10/7/10 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by SouthernMan
Charlotte
Member since Nov 2008
1380 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 12:54 pm to
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because you are a man. And by man, I mean jackass...



That's pretty funny!


Hey wait, I'm a man too does that mean I'm a .... ok, I see what you mean.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:07 pm to
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Can we please put this LM overrides GC crap to bed now?


it doesn't fit their agenda.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:09 pm to
Third time I am posting this now, but all of the Crowton posts present the same conundrum:

"Posts like this always beg the question: what, exactly, does Les Miles do all season?

In 2008, the defense was atrocious (as a result of hires Miles made). Apparently, he was incapable of stepping in and resolving the issue himself during the season. After the season, he fired his cronies and retained Chavis. The defense has improved under Chavis.

In 2010, the offense has been inept thus far. This is being blamed on Crowton. Apparently, Miles himself cannot step in and remedy the matter immediately. So now he is supposed to resolve the offensive woes by hiring a new coordinator, who will return us to glory.

But this sequence of events indicates that Miles is incapable of autonomously coaching either the offense or the defense. Apparently, he can't actually coach either side of the ball. He's just a figurehead who recruits and hires other men who can actually coach."
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31927 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:14 pm to
binoculars =/= headset communications.....does he have it tapped? no. GG makes a weak assertion.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26315 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:20 pm to
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But this sequence of events indicates that Miles is incapable of autonomously coaching either the offense or the defense. Apparently, he can't actually coach either side of the ball. He's just a figurehead who recruits and hires other men who can actually coach."



I have absolutely no issue with a "figure head" as head coach. Actually, I would prefer it ... Organization runs smoother in the long run IMO (see Penn State/Paterno, Texas/Brown, Florida State/Bowden, Ohio State/Tressel).

Nonetheless, I wish we could get from point A to point C a lot faster.

I'm ready for Crowton to go...TODAY!
This post was edited on 10/7/10 at 1:29 pm
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24362 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:23 pm to
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it doesn't fit their agenda.


X 1000
Posted by lsutigerfan1976
Slidell, LA
Member since Nov 2009
2358 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:26 pm to
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But this sequence of events indicates that Miles is incapable of autonomously coaching either the offense or the defense. Apparently, he can't actually coach either side of the ball. He's just a figurehead who recruits and hires other men who can actually coach."


Pretty much. But that isn't a bad thing. Plenty of head coaches have been figure heads, all they did is let the assistants do their thing. Miles just needs a better O coordinator on that side of the ball.
Posted by dutchtowntiger100
dutchtown
Member since Aug 2009
2872 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:29 pm to
Glen Guilbeau on Nick Saban:
I watch Nick on the sidelines with my up close binoculars and really like his haircut - I wonder who is barber is? I wish I could dress like him too.
Posted by eyefortigers
bossier
Member since Dec 2007
26 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:29 pm to
If you think the play calling is so great tell me what fool would throw a fade to a 5'9 tailback when you have two 6'2 are taller receivers
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9598 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:36 pm to
its a combination of everything....play calling...personnel...everything...we have no identity...

our identity like another poster said should mirror Bamas...

Lee in at QB, Play action...draws. screens...hitting deep passes....shep in the wildcat with the occasional throw....basically putting the ball in our play makers hands as often as possible...

it doesnt take a genius to figure this shite out...
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10905 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 1:43 pm to
I think Crowton is used to working with cerebral QB's. (I know this knocks Jordan but he hasn't proved he makes good decisions yet) I think Crowton is lost having to call a game for a QB who has perceived decision challenges. He was too damn effective with Flynn and other QB's to be dismissed as an idiot. I think he can't figure out how to use a QB like Jordan.
Posted by dmitch
Member since May 2008
1101 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 2:30 pm to
ah nevermind
This post was edited on 10/7/10 at 2:32 pm
Posted by ezraman1
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2004
823 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 2:43 pm to
Well, whoever called the fade inside the ten with JL throwing the ball, when we had eaten up their d-line with Ridley, needs to go. Worst play call I have seen in a while...maybe on 3rd down but no way you call that on 1st down with our offensive problems.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30306 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 2:48 pm to
Agreed, 35 to 40 yd fade pass/hangtime, after rolling right/throwing left, while on the 8 yd line, after grinding all way down field..

Dumb!
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22379 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 3:10 pm to
I didn't have a problem with the play design. And it might not have been the prime place to call it, but the execution of the play deserves the most criticism.

Once Ridley was accounted for, Lee has to throw it away or to the outside shoulder. It was expected that Ridley would be more clear of his defender, and the pass would not require so much arch.

Lee deserves the most blame, IMO. Ridley should have also recognized the situation, and interfered if necessary. And for me to defend Crowton and/or Miles at this point, must be taken as a sign by everyone else to reconsider their thoughts on this particular play.

You have to realize the severe struggles we are having in the red zone. Nine yards may have been more than our offense could handle in four downs running the ball. We barely got 8 yards against Miss. St., and later in the game it took 2 plays to get 2 yards on the ground, BARELY.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30306 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 3:13 pm to
That's just it, if LSU recruits a lean leaper in 6'-6" Tolliver, why not have him as the target instead of a fireplug 6'-0" RB, and throw the ball to the outside shoulder, where only he can make a play on it? And as you mentioned, Ridley didn't turn into a defender as a well-trained WR is trained to do, on a ball that is left floating to a precarious spot.

Don't have your seven-footers shooting treys unless their name is Dirk..don't have your Point Guard posting up down low..unless his name is Magic.
This post was edited on 10/7/10 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Cussian
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Mar 2008
1731 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 3:28 pm to
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He was too damn effective with Flynn and other QB's to be dismissed as an idiot.


He wasn't that effective with Flynn. Though our offense was pretty good, that had more to do with the o-line and running game than anything Flynn did.

And in response to another poster who said he didn't have any problem with a 'figurehead' head coach who wasn't that involved with in-game management. I agree only if that coach can also take control of the game when it's obvious the play calling isn't working. Miles has shown zero ability to do that so far.

I fear Miles biggest weakness though is his stubborness and resistance to change.

Of course, if he finishes 10-2, I may be crawfishing pretty badly.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 3:32 pm to
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dmitch
Glen Guilbeau on Crowton-Miles
ah nevermind



dmitch your thoughts/opinions are always welcome dude, c'mon say whats on your mind

I think I've gotten you don't agree with GG on this one, cool with me dude- tell us more
Posted by SouthernMan
Charlotte
Member since Nov 2008
1380 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 3:35 pm to
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why not have him as the target instead of a fireplug 6'-0" RB


That's the thing, I think Crowton is too smart...


by half.

It's the old 'they'll never expect the fade to the 'least' likely fade option so let's do that', not sure where that comes from but dadgum....
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18518 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 3:37 pm to
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I'd like to know what pass he is talking about I don't think there are many throws that Flynn can make that JL can't


Everyone thinks that Flynn was some great athlete. He really wasn't, but he worked his arse off and was a great leader. That's why he was successful and still will be in the NFL
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