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Glaring Inconsistencies in TM7 Bust That Have Not Been Mentioned
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:25 am
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:25 am
Apologies to all who don't want to see a new TM7 thread, but I've read through all of them and find no mention of a few glaring inconsistencies that are bugging the hell out of me but haven't been pointed out or mentioned:
There are twitter screenshots of people posting they heard Tyrann got arrested, the earliest at 2:51pm. The official police press release says that officers were DISPATCHED to a supposedly unknown random disturbance at an apartment gate at approximately 3:30pm. Now, somebody tell me how someone could hear TM7 was arrested 41 minutes BEFORE the cops were even enroute to the scene? I don't twit and know little about it, but the time stamp on cellphone communications is reliably accurate; I suppose this could be altered for a bogus screen capture somehow, but since no one was pointing out this discrepancy it seems unlikely.
Simailarly, there are twitters that reference the arrest being reported on WBRZ as early as 3:44pm- you tell me how WBRZ KNEW Tyrann was being arrested at approximately the same time the officers were knocking on his door and supposedly not knowing who/what they would find inside? (Dispatched at 3:30, had to drive there, find and talk to the alleged maintenance worker who had argument with as-yet unidentified man at gate, go to apartment, knock, smell weed, search, etc.) Doesn't this time-line discrepancy seem to scream out that WBRZ was tipped off, and raise the possibility that the bust was planned and not stumbled into as the police claim?
So if the police have to radically "adjust" their story to address these time-line discrepancies, how much doubt does that cast on the remainder of the story?
According to police accounts, JJ was trying to get through the gate, the maintenance worker confronted him, argument/commotion ensued, then Tyrann came down AND LET HIM IN and they went into Tyrann's apartment. This account seems to beg two questions not being asked: 1st, if Tyrann has supposedly "cooled things out" by appearing and saying, "It's OK, he's a guest of mine", then what is the basis of a call to the cops - what is the complaint? "Umm, I'm a maintenance worker and the tenant in Apt.2116 has a guest that was really rude to me." ? Once it was confirmed that a tenant has acknowledged the man in question is his guest, then unless this guy has a restraining order from harrassing some ex-wife tenant neighbor, or has been banned from the premises, drawn a weapon, or some similar extenuating circumstances, shouldn't that have been the end of that discussion? Once the police officers verified that the man in question was vouched for and admitted as a guest by a tenant, why were they even dispatched, and what probable cause did they have to even knock on the door?
The 2nd question it begs is - why wouldn't Tyrann buzz him in in the 1st place? It seems like, according to the story, JJ couldn't get in/ was NOT let in, was causing a scene, and Tyrann had to come down to quiet the disturbance (yes, this is conjecture based on sketchy details.). When did the other two guests arrive, before or after JJ? Seems like they were already there- security cams? These dudes have cellphones, it's JJ's roommate, they are ignoring his calls, his "buzz" to get let in, JJ is getting pissed- there's some delightfully juicy backstabbing, petty beef BS issues in there somewhere that we don't know about that are no doubt intriguing- that is, if the story about a gate incident is accurate in the first place. Anyone got any ideas or guesses? And please spare me the "He is a dope fiend that needed his fix" crap- no, it was something else.
OK, so the officers claimed "a strong odor of marijuana" and Tyrann consented to a search. Most of us know that "there was a strong odor of marijuana and the suspect consented to a search of his vehicle" really means that they put the dude in handcuffs and shut him up in the backseat of the cruiser so they don't have to listen to him hollering about probable cause and search warrants and "I know my rights" while they ransack his vehicle; that's pretty much a given. But here's something that's telling in it's absence of being mentioned: the police press release lists finding weed, the dreaded GRINDER (gasp!), and the digital scales...so what were they smoking? No bong mentioned, no pipes, no half-burnt blunt, no roaches, no rolling papers or other drug paraphanalia mentioned or itemized. You bust into an alleged cloud of smoke and catch people in the act, then where is the mechanism of ingestion?
And what is this fascination with a grinder? Do people think it's some magical manufacturing device, like it's a meth lab or such? Jesus, it's like "He was a dangerous felon and not just a recreational tequila drinker- he had shot glasses, limes and salt, which makes him a tequila kingpin."
Why were TM and JJ handcuffed and booked into Parish Prison on a simple possesion charge when the SOP is simply to issue a misdemeanor summons? I think the argument could be made that the motivation smacks of maximizing the entertainment/ news value while simultaneously relishing the shame and humiliation.
So can anybody think of a reason why someone would want, or stand to profit or gain from, Tyrann being busted for weed? You know it was just a few days ago that the majority of the people on this site were outraged by the SI article and calling for slander lawsuits; these same supposedly "shady" (pun intended) reporters were allegedly offering considerable wads of cash to anybody "dishing the dirt". While at first glance on the surface this arrest seems to be what some would call "routine good police work", should it be discovered through investigating some of these incongruities that there's more to the story than what first meets the eye, then maybe in the interest of fairness we could temporarily pull TM7 out from under the bus and dust him off while we sort out all of what ACTUALLY happened. What if it should turn out that he wasn't just a victim of his own dumb-assedness, but was targeted/set up? Does that change anyone's opinion of how he should be treated, or his future chances to play again, somewhere?
There are twitter screenshots of people posting they heard Tyrann got arrested, the earliest at 2:51pm. The official police press release says that officers were DISPATCHED to a supposedly unknown random disturbance at an apartment gate at approximately 3:30pm. Now, somebody tell me how someone could hear TM7 was arrested 41 minutes BEFORE the cops were even enroute to the scene? I don't twit and know little about it, but the time stamp on cellphone communications is reliably accurate; I suppose this could be altered for a bogus screen capture somehow, but since no one was pointing out this discrepancy it seems unlikely.
Simailarly, there are twitters that reference the arrest being reported on WBRZ as early as 3:44pm- you tell me how WBRZ KNEW Tyrann was being arrested at approximately the same time the officers were knocking on his door and supposedly not knowing who/what they would find inside? (Dispatched at 3:30, had to drive there, find and talk to the alleged maintenance worker who had argument with as-yet unidentified man at gate, go to apartment, knock, smell weed, search, etc.) Doesn't this time-line discrepancy seem to scream out that WBRZ was tipped off, and raise the possibility that the bust was planned and not stumbled into as the police claim?
So if the police have to radically "adjust" their story to address these time-line discrepancies, how much doubt does that cast on the remainder of the story?
According to police accounts, JJ was trying to get through the gate, the maintenance worker confronted him, argument/commotion ensued, then Tyrann came down AND LET HIM IN and they went into Tyrann's apartment. This account seems to beg two questions not being asked: 1st, if Tyrann has supposedly "cooled things out" by appearing and saying, "It's OK, he's a guest of mine", then what is the basis of a call to the cops - what is the complaint? "Umm, I'm a maintenance worker and the tenant in Apt.2116 has a guest that was really rude to me." ? Once it was confirmed that a tenant has acknowledged the man in question is his guest, then unless this guy has a restraining order from harrassing some ex-wife tenant neighbor, or has been banned from the premises, drawn a weapon, or some similar extenuating circumstances, shouldn't that have been the end of that discussion? Once the police officers verified that the man in question was vouched for and admitted as a guest by a tenant, why were they even dispatched, and what probable cause did they have to even knock on the door?
The 2nd question it begs is - why wouldn't Tyrann buzz him in in the 1st place? It seems like, according to the story, JJ couldn't get in/ was NOT let in, was causing a scene, and Tyrann had to come down to quiet the disturbance (yes, this is conjecture based on sketchy details.). When did the other two guests arrive, before or after JJ? Seems like they were already there- security cams? These dudes have cellphones, it's JJ's roommate, they are ignoring his calls, his "buzz" to get let in, JJ is getting pissed- there's some delightfully juicy backstabbing, petty beef BS issues in there somewhere that we don't know about that are no doubt intriguing- that is, if the story about a gate incident is accurate in the first place. Anyone got any ideas or guesses? And please spare me the "He is a dope fiend that needed his fix" crap- no, it was something else.
OK, so the officers claimed "a strong odor of marijuana" and Tyrann consented to a search. Most of us know that "there was a strong odor of marijuana and the suspect consented to a search of his vehicle" really means that they put the dude in handcuffs and shut him up in the backseat of the cruiser so they don't have to listen to him hollering about probable cause and search warrants and "I know my rights" while they ransack his vehicle; that's pretty much a given. But here's something that's telling in it's absence of being mentioned: the police press release lists finding weed, the dreaded GRINDER (gasp!), and the digital scales...so what were they smoking? No bong mentioned, no pipes, no half-burnt blunt, no roaches, no rolling papers or other drug paraphanalia mentioned or itemized. You bust into an alleged cloud of smoke and catch people in the act, then where is the mechanism of ingestion?
And what is this fascination with a grinder? Do people think it's some magical manufacturing device, like it's a meth lab or such? Jesus, it's like "He was a dangerous felon and not just a recreational tequila drinker- he had shot glasses, limes and salt, which makes him a tequila kingpin."
Why were TM and JJ handcuffed and booked into Parish Prison on a simple possesion charge when the SOP is simply to issue a misdemeanor summons? I think the argument could be made that the motivation smacks of maximizing the entertainment/ news value while simultaneously relishing the shame and humiliation.
So can anybody think of a reason why someone would want, or stand to profit or gain from, Tyrann being busted for weed? You know it was just a few days ago that the majority of the people on this site were outraged by the SI article and calling for slander lawsuits; these same supposedly "shady" (pun intended) reporters were allegedly offering considerable wads of cash to anybody "dishing the dirt". While at first glance on the surface this arrest seems to be what some would call "routine good police work", should it be discovered through investigating some of these incongruities that there's more to the story than what first meets the eye, then maybe in the interest of fairness we could temporarily pull TM7 out from under the bus and dust him off while we sort out all of what ACTUALLY happened. What if it should turn out that he wasn't just a victim of his own dumb-assedness, but was targeted/set up? Does that change anyone's opinion of how he should be treated, or his future chances to play again, somewhere?
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:29 am to StadiumDormRat'72
TL;DNR
I don't really care what your point was. These idiots were breaking the law and now they get to pay the consequences. They are all former Tigers, so I'm sorry it casts some bad light on the school, but all I can wish for them is that they turn their lives around.

I don't really care what your point was. These idiots were breaking the law and now they get to pay the consequences. They are all former Tigers, so I'm sorry it casts some bad light on the school, but all I can wish for them is that they turn their lives around.
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:30 am to StadiumDormRat'72
serious question
why do you care? he is not on the team, he has a problem that HE needs to correct.
get over it
why do you care? he is not on the team, he has a problem that HE needs to correct.
get over it
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:30 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Dude... seriously... give it up
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:32 am to StadiumDormRat'72
You serious Clark?
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:33 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Innocent until proven guilty.
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:33 am to StadiumDormRat'72
At least you didn't turn it in to a racial thing......wait, maybe you did, I didn't read it either.
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:34 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Holy frick....I don't even know what to say. You seriously put that much thought into this?
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:35 am to StadiumDormRat'72
I honestly appreciate the effort you put in this, but I think you might have too much time on your hands.
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:35 am to StadiumDormRat'72
He likes the night life.... He likes to boogie...
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:35 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Nice manifesto
ETA: anyone actually read that? Cliffs?

ETA: anyone actually read that? Cliffs?
This post was edited on 10/27/12 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:35 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Too much time on your hands?
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:37 am to GonePecan
He is a dope head. With dope headed friends. No wonder Jefferson couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. He was high.
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:37 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Dopers gonna dope. Hope they enjoy their lives in jail
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:38 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Some legit points.... But frick ALMOST tl,dr
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:38 am to StadiumDormRat'72
I think this was a sting operation and TM was the one that set it up. As part of his probationary duties, he agreed to help the cops catch the evil doers. TM is the good guy here.
Someone on the OT started a thread asking, "what if Baton Rouge had a batman?" I say, Baton Rouge has a Honey Badger!
Someone on the OT started a thread asking, "what if Baton Rouge had a batman?" I say, Baton Rouge has a Honey Badger!
Posted on 10/27/12 at 9:38 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Tl;dr
He's a dumbass, not coming back. He better figure it out soon or he will throw away millions in the NFL
He's a dumbass, not coming back. He better figure it out soon or he will throw away millions in the NFL
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