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re: Give these young pitchers time to find their bearings...
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:58 pm to AlwysATgr
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:58 pm to AlwysATgr
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Pitching coaches in baseball are like OCs in football. Yeskie has a pretty good track record. Our staff is deep on potential; lean on experience.
But it is a trend at this point. I'm not sure anyone can deny that. This is a team, from a pure talent standpoint, that should host a regional. Anything beyond that is anyone's guess. Maybe they will. But if they don't that is a failure on the coaching staff. And the very clear weak link on this team so far is pitching. And I have watched other teams in other games. The basic lack of control that most of our pitchers have is astounding. So who do you blame? All of the pitchers, or the guy whose job is supposed to be to at least teach them the fundamentals of what they are supposed to do? shite, Jay makes over half of the mound visits himself. What are we paying this guy for?
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:07 pm to Jax-Tiger
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The guys that throw mid-90s in the zone ss freshmen are rare, and the ones that figure it out get drafted. Our best pitchers for the last few years have been transfers who went through their growing pains elsewhere. They come in, have a great year, and get drafted. We don't have the luxury of having a stud pitcher for 3 years. So we're gonna do this again next year.
Well stated.
The new normal. Or maybe it’s always been that way or gotten worse.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:09 pm to TheRouxGuru
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I’m making fun of this board for how it acted at the end of basketball season
The END ??????
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TheRouxGuru
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silly goose
You got that right !!
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:13 pm to Imber
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Our pitchers' mechanics are awful
Tell us what you’ve seen?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:16 pm to Imber
I don't think fundamentals are the issue. Everyone is throwing mid-90s for a reason - because they have been working on their fundamentals with their travel ball coach since middle school. There comes a time when you have to stop throwing and start pitching. All of those guys will go out in practice and throw strikes. It's just different when you've got a guy at the plate who will hit the high fastball out of the park and you are trying your best not to give him the pitch he's looking for.
Also, sometimes I think we need to get a couple of guys like Riley Cooper or a maybe a guy who throws sidearm. Guys who are just different, some how.
Everyone throws mid-90s and we don't have a great change of pace guy. Cowan throws 90ish and he's our most effective reliever. Evans looks like Gumby with a spinal defect when he throws and I'm sure it is very difficult for hitters to pick up the ball early. It will be good to have Guidry back, because he relies more on a nasty curve that you can't do anything about, even if you know it's coming.
Also, sometimes I think we need to get a couple of guys like Riley Cooper or a maybe a guy who throws sidearm. Guys who are just different, some how.
Everyone throws mid-90s and we don't have a great change of pace guy. Cowan throws 90ish and he's our most effective reliever. Evans looks like Gumby with a spinal defect when he throws and I'm sure it is very difficult for hitters to pick up the ball early. It will be good to have Guidry back, because he relies more on a nasty curve that you can't do anything about, even if you know it's coming.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:17 pm to Havoc
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The new normal.
We are the baseball equivalent of Kentucky in basketball. For better or worse.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:19 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Outside of LSU, how many college baseball games have you watched this year? Last year?
I only watch LSU baseball and I haven’t missed a game in the last 34 years. Why do I need to watch other teams play to be able to determine whether Texas freshman pitchers had no issues? That was my statement and you respond with a book? What about my statement was false?
1) Did Texas freshman pitchers look good or not?
2) How did our freshman pitchers look to you?
3) who in the frick is responsible for getting our pitchers ready?
These are simple questions. I’m not sure how this is a Jimmy rustler for you? I didn’t make a comment about the rest of the college baseball world. Again just for you because it seems you are a slow reader…
TEXAS FRESHMAN DIDNT APPEAR TO NEED ANY TIME TO GROW. IF OUR DO THEN WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT GROWTH.
*****There are only 2 answers so don’t frick this up dipshit !
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:19 pm to supersaints9
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supersaints9
Escaped retard from the SEC rant it looks like
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:26 pm to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
I thought you pledged to be better? Like 2 hrs ago.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:21 pm to Mr. Hangover
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I feel like a lot of you guys simply compare LSU to your imaginary idea of perfection that’s in your head. Yall do know that other teams go through these types of growing pains right?
I compare our program to Tennessee.
I know, I know… everyone here hates Vitello and Tennessee. I also know our fans like to look down on them. Yes, I know they’ve only won 1 National Title.
But….. over the last 4 years + this year, they are playing at a much consistently higher level than we are. That’s what I want, consistently high level baseball.
Doesn’t matter who they lose, they keep replacing them with elite players. Their pitching performance is significantly more consistently better than ours.
It’s not asking too much to be as good, if not better than Tennessee with all our history, fan base, resources, money, etc.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:24 pm to Jax-Tiger
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By the end of the year, the other freshmen will be better, for having gone through what they did in the series against Texas.
So let me understand this statement and then I’m putting my thoughts on this to rest;
Schmidt is going to be better later in the year because he will learn NOT to leave balls in the heart of the plate ? Wouldn’t this be something that Schmidt and every other pitcher already knows ? Wouldn’t our all world pitching guru Yeskie have our guys better prepared ? Is Yeskie calling the wrong pitches? Is Jay calling the pitches? And believe me I think our Coach made some terrible decisions regardless of how our pitchers performed. It made zero sense to pitch to their hottest batter with first base open but we did on more than one occasion. None of these guys are Skenes so in my opinion our Coach put these pitchers in bad situations to begin with. Hopefully the coaches will also be better but I would expect them to already be at that level now.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:26 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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My main gripe is why do Jay's teams have this issue consitently?
He’s cycled through pitching coaches like underwear.
At the end of the day, the raw stuff is too good to struggle this much. OP is exactly right
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:28 pm to supersaints9
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None of these guys are Skenes
Neither was he his freshman year. They have to get their lumps in order to grow. Sure there is some second guessing with calls. But yes, they will learn this isn’t high school and pitch location matters. Listening to the coaches matters.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:37 pm to Jax-Tiger
Noooooo losing 2 of 3 to a top five team on the road is just not acceptable. I refuse to understand that baseball is more than a 12 game season like football.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:43 pm to supersaints9
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1) Did Texas freshman pitchers look good or not?
Texas used ONE freshman pitcher against us. Not plural. Singular. Probably there is a reason they only used one. Probably because the others weren't ready.
BTW, we have a damn good freshman pitcher, in Evans, too, and he looked great.
So Texas doesn't have some sort of advantage over us in that department.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:49 pm to Imber
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This is a team, from a pure talent standpoint, that should host a regional. Anything beyond that is anyone's guess. Maybe they will. But if they don't that is a failure on the coaching staff.
It absolutely would be a failure. However, this team is well on their way to hosting a regional
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:51 pm to Jax-Tiger
I bet Texas isnt saying that
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:54 pm to Jax-Tiger
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There comes a time when you have to stop throwing and start pitching.
This!
Some guys are just used to raring back and blowing fastballs by high school kids down the middle of the plate. Won't fly in the SEC. Even if it's 95 mph. Then have to deal with the mental aspect of that blast against them happening, which they aren't really used to either. So when that happens someone like Schmidt just tries to rare back and throw harder, then gets wilder. That is throwing, not pitching.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:56 pm to supersaints9
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So let me understand this statement and then I’m putting my thoughts on this to rest;
Schmidt is going to be better later in the year because he will learn NOT to leave balls in the heart of the plate ? Wouldn’t this be something that Schmidt and every other pitcher already knows ?
It's not a matter of knowing. It's a matter of handling your emotions, not overthrowing, staying calm, and having the confidence that you're going to throw a good pitch on a 3-2 count in a pressure situation.
Hell, everyone KNOWS what to do. Knowing what to do and doing it are two totally different things. Let them get used to the pressure situation. Some pick it up quicker than others. Some never get to the point where they can handle the pressure.
Did you know that Aiden Moffet was on the Texas bench. He's a guy that hasn't picked it up, yet. Neither has Cam Johnson at OU.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:59 pm to Imber
Outlr hitting was a bigger disappointment to me
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