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re: Give credit to coach O..

Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:30 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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Thats not what you said.


That's exactly what I said.

QB and WRs have talent
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48274 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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Things are looking better and there are reasons for optimism. If you don't see it, it is because you choose not to.


So when will 3 losses and a shite offense be considered underachieving again?

Because in 2015 we had a good offense and lost 3 games and we all wanted miles gone for it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52189 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:31 am to
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Good, our passing yardage increased over 10% this year.


While the other relevant stats all decreased. Do you need me to post it again?

Increasing one statistic, breaking even in another and decreasing 4 statistics equals "improving".

Solid logic there.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 11:32 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:32 am to
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Because in 2015 we had a good offense and lost 3 games and we all wanted miles gone for it.


Well Miles had a dipshit belief in "attacking the other reams strength" which led to his downfall
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:32 am to
“ that’s not a bad season at all”

I haven’t seen a post saying it was bad.

“dire”

That’s amusing. 9-3, 5-3, nationally ranked, and with a better O in a 12 game season is “dire”, but 10-3, 5-3, with a worse O in a 13 game season is called “great”.

Miles was fired partly because 9-10 win seasons without being competitive in the west and struggling offenses were not exceptable at LSU. 34 games later, LSU is still not competitive in the west and has an offense which struggled even more. Spin it anyway you wish, but that’s a problem.

I’m in no way am I suggesting Coach O needs to be released, but anyone who doesn’t see some warning flags waving in the wind simply isn’t looking.

Hopefully, the offense will improve next year and we will actually become competitive in seeking a West title. I think that’s all most of us want and as for as being competitive in the west, it’s something we haven’t seen since 2012 under 2 different head coaches and 3 OCs.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:33 am to
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Bama wasn't played in the final 3rd of the season. Rice was.




I said that I was excluding Rice for obvious reasons.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52189 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:33 am to
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I said that I was excluding Rice for obvious reasons.


You should exclude Arkansas as well then. They were one of the worst SEC teams we've ever seen.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:34 am to
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While the other relevant stats all decreased.


Oh, it started badly but toward the end was clicking.

I'm much happier with the passing game this year. It showed big improvement.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16710 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:35 am to
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Great job? His best season is a 3 loss season.
When the hell did 3 loss seasons become great at lsu?

Decent season but 3 losses should be our floor because there arent 3 teams more talented than us on this past year's schedule.

It's the first season since 2011 that we will finish ahead of our pre-season ranking.

Will also be the first time since 2011 that we will finish top 10.

This team was 114th out of 120 teams and 13th out of 14 SEC teams in number of games started by returning starters.

Our current recruiting ranking average for the 2019 class is 91.39 which is the highest since 2009 (91.52) when we had the top class in CFB.

There are a lot of areas that need to improve, but all things considered, it was a very good season. I still have concerns with the OC situation, but this season was successful considering the lack of elite offensive talent. They far exceeded expectations.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:37 am to
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You do tend to focus on the negative, that will never change


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I tend to focus on facts. When the facts say something isn't better, I say something isn't better.


It's really ironic because Shrubber calls himself objective, yet he's preoccupied with positive/negative, which contradicts the idea of objectivity.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48274 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:39 am to
Here you are admitting to saying our offensive talent is iverrated and average at best. Youre a liar


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Posted by RogerTheShrubber ? ? on 12/29/18 at 11:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188

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average at best.



Im sorry, Liberace, average isn't bashing.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:39 am to
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It's really ironic because Shrubber calls himself objective,


I am


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yet he's preoccupied with positive/negative, which contradicts the idea of objectivity.


Absolutely not, because I can identify both, unlike yourself

One of us has been banned because of this...
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52189 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:40 am to
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I am


"I'm objective, as long as you don't ask me to back my opinions with actual facts."

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290835 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:40 am to
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He was our jack lb.

Its not surprising you dont know what a jack linebacker is.




So why do you list him among the DL roster?


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dline players the day miles was fired....
2016 dline roster

key
alexander
bower
clark
Anthony
gilmore
godchaux
harper
herron
lacouture
lawrence
Logan
neal
valentine
Washington

This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 11:42 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48274 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:40 am to
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It's the first season since 2011 that we will finish ahead of our pre-season ranking. 

Will also be the first time since 2011 that we will finish top 10. 

This team was 114th out of 120 teams and 13th out of 14 SEC teams in number of games started by returning starters. 

Our current recruiting ranking average for the 2019 class is 91.39 which is the highest since 2009 (91.52) when we had the top class in CFB. 

There are a lot of areas that need to improve, but all things considered, it was a very good season. I still have concerns with the OC situation, but this season was successful considering the lack of elite offensive talent. They far exceeded expectations.



Agreed. Decent season.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:40 am to
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quote:
Posted by RogerTheShrubber ? ? on 12/29/18 at 11:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188

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average at best.



Im sorry, Liberace, average isn't bashing.



What's the context?

The offensive talent was pretty anerage, except QB and WR.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:41 am to
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There are a lot of areas that need to improve, but all things considered, it was a very good season. I still have concerns with the OC situation, but this season was successful considering the lack of elite offensive talent. They far exceeded expectations.




fact...............
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48274 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:41 am to
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The offensive talent was pretty anerage, except QB and WR.


Thats not what you said.
You said our offensive talent is overrated and average at best. Thats the context. Youre a straight up liar.
Posted by thedisciple315
Albany, NY
Member since Sep 2015
323 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:42 am to
Ranked 24/25 in the preseason... brutal schedule (can't be emphasized enough)... low expectations... coach on the hot seat... demolition of Georgia might be the most impressive win by anybody this year (forget Texas' win Georgia didn't care at that point they cared against you guys)... looks like a real good season from the outside looking in.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48274 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:42 am to
Look up the definition of jack linebacker and get back to me.

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