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GIDP: statistically unlucky or coaching/recruiting/or technique issue
Posted on 5/7/12 at 11:52 am
Posted on 5/7/12 at 11:52 am
Everyone knows that LSU has grounded into an ungodly amount of twin killings this year. Conversely, we haven't turned that many (which is an issue for another thread, I'm sure).
Is LSU a victim of being unlucky with regard to ABs in which a double play is possible? I'm not sure if there is an advanced metric that would be able to tell one if that is the case, but if one exists, what is it?
Alternatively, are the double plays this year a result of systemic issues such as coaching, lineup creation/order, or a lack of speed rather than just luck?
ETA: I believe the Tigers, as of today, have grounded into 36 double plays.
Is LSU a victim of being unlucky with regard to ABs in which a double play is possible? I'm not sure if there is an advanced metric that would be able to tell one if that is the case, but if one exists, what is it?
Alternatively, are the double plays this year a result of systemic issues such as coaching, lineup creation/order, or a lack of speed rather than just luck?
ETA: I believe the Tigers, as of today, have grounded into 36 double plays.
This post was edited on 5/7/12 at 12:08 pm
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Posted on 5/7/12 at 11:57 am to therick711
Bad luck hitting wise....not turning them as much because of our strikeout pitchers, less balls in play
Posted on 5/7/12 at 12:01 pm to therick711
Our team speed is below average and we lack many power hitters that hit the ball in the air. It's probably a combination of the aforementioned things and a little bad luck.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 12:03 pm to therick711
There are many factors of course.
One of which is that we've attempted 43% fewer stolen bases this year compared to a year ago, leaving more guys standing on 1st.
One of which is that we've attempted 43% fewer stolen bases this year compared to a year ago, leaving more guys standing on 1st.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 12:05 pm to AstroTiger
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One of which is that we've attempted 43% fewer stolen bases this year compared to a year ago, leaving more guys standing on 1st.
There are indeed a lot of factors to consider. The statistic is alarmingly high for one team regardless of the amount of SBs, though. That leads me to conclude there must be an unluckiness component to it. I'm not sure if there is a way to separate that out like scouts do with BABIP, for instance.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 12:05 pm to therick711
It also has to do with that fact that we expose ourselves to more unlucky situations because we are good. We get people on base and since we don't strike out a lot, we put the ball in play and get unlucky.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 12:06 pm to AstroTiger
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One of which is that we've attempted 43% fewer stolen bases this year compared to a year ago, leaving more guys standing on 1st.
Wow, that would seem to explain some of it.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 12:08 pm to therick711
I said it Saturday: this is a team that hits the ball hard but doesn't have a lot of team speed. With a combination like that, DPs are gonna happen.
It's not rocket science.
It's not rocket science.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 2:54 pm to josh336
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not turning them as much because of our strikeout pitchers, less balls in play
Exactly, LSU pitchers lead the country with 436 stikeouts, thats 33% of the outs this season have been by stikeout
Posted on 5/7/12 at 2:59 pm to therick711
There's been a lot of strike em out, throw em out this year too
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:06 pm to ForeverLSU02
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There's been a lot of strike em out, throw em out this year too
Yeah, I'm more interested in the GIDPs, though.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:27 pm to therick711
I think it's simple. LSU as a team is terribly slow. Katz, Nola, Rhymes, Ross, Moore, Dozar, Edward. None are exactly speed merchants. The ones with notable speed, Jones and Fields have been hitting awful*.
*Jones did have a great OM series. Fields had a great UF series.
*Jones did have a great OM series. Fields had a great UF series.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:31 pm to The_Pistol
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Katz, Nola, Rhymes, Ross, Moore, Dozar, Edward.
Katz, Nola, Rhymes, and Moore all have average speed. Not slow by any means.
Ross and Dozar are downright slow, but what did you expect?
Edward, I haven't noticed him full out run since he pulled his hammy so I'll wait until I see him in person to determine that.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:32 pm to therick711
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I'm not sure if there is an advanced metric that would be able to tell one if that is the case, but if one exists, what is it?
Studying baseball stats like these is for total nerds. For guys that wear costumes to see movies like Star Wars, Harry Potter, The Avengers, et al...
This post was edited on 5/7/12 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:32 pm to therick711
How many did they hit into last season idk the numbers but it seems like they hit into more dps last year
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:37 pm to The Nuts
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Studying baseball stats like these is for total nerds. For guys that wear costumes to see movies like Star Wars, The Avengers, et al...
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:38 pm to therick711
We also did a terrible job of working the count early in the year. Most of the DPs occurred when we swung at early count off speed trash
Posted on 5/7/12 at 4:06 pm to LSU=Champions
Instead of Harry Potter movies may I suggest the collective works of Deauxma?
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