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re: Garrett Nussmeier 2024 in perspective
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:25 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:25 am to thunderbird1100
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It's almsot like 1st year starters can be hot and cold some.
You all keep saying this to me like I wasn’t the first person to point out his flaws when everyone thought he was going to the Heisman ceremony & thought he was the best QB in the SEC.
I don’t even care much about his INTs. It was always the process for me. The bad INTs just became the result that is most traceable. It’s the other little things that were red flags. Mechanical & decision making. Running backwards every snap, etc.
It’s always been obvious to me he wasn’t perfect and was playing the way a 1st year starter would. I have always gave him grace. But that doesn’t mean I won’t tell people they are wrong when they can’t see the full picture.
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:59 am to Lester Earl
Except you've clearly had an agenda out against Nuss basically all season long. You even called him "garbage" (or something of the sort) in every SEC game I specifically remember not that long ago. I dont know why you specifically have it out for him, but overall he had a very good first year starting. He had some flaws, but overall was very successful especially dealing with a not typical LSU WR room without that elite guy, no real run game to speak of and when Dellinger went out mid-season an interior OLine that couldnt block to save their lives either for a few games (which just so happened to be some of our toughest games). I'm not going to say things need to be perfect for the guy, but he certainly had some things working against him that could have prevented him from having a bigger season too. Things he needs to work on and hopefully things we can also get better at as a team.
If Chris Hilton can just stay healthy a whole season, that would be nice. They clearly have the long ball chemistry and that solved that problem of the game.
If Chris Hilton can just stay healthy a whole season, that would be nice. They clearly have the long ball chemistry and that solved that problem of the game.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:05 am to thunderbird1100
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Lacy was a good WR (Aaron Anderosn was too) they just aren't what we've had in the recent past. Not 1st/2nd round type NFL guys. Not a knock on them, just the reality, they had holes in their games this season. We've just had elite guys in the past and didnt this season at WR is the reality there.
Many of you really need Nussmeier to be what he's not at this time. Maybe he'll become that player in 2025.
It's the OL, WRs, Coaching, etc. Not his inaccuracy, INTs, fumbles, back pedaling, etc
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:18 am to creoletiger1224
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Many of you really need Nussmeier to be what he's not at this time. Maybe he'll become that player in 2025.
Pointing out obvious things like we didnt have an elite WR this season is just a fact, not sure why you're trying to argue around that. We typically have an elite WR in the room, we just simply didnt this year. That doesnt excuse anything for Nussmeier, it's just the truth of the situation and obviously isnt as easy for a QB to not have an elite guy vs. having one. You dont think things could have been a little better for Nuss if he still had Nabers and Thomas to throw to? We just simply didnt have that elite level of skill at receiver this season, so some plays simply didnt happen. Lacy is a solid overall receiver, but he was horrible in 50/50 balls this year, rarely made guys miss after the catch and wasnt a consistent long game threat. Each WR had their own flaws basically, we didnt have that go to easy target when we needed it like we've had in the past that constantly delivered.
Just imagine Chris Hilton being healthy all season. The deep ball finally got fixed the last couple games as him and Nuss connected basically on 4 of them for TDs. We rarely had that before Hilton got his stuff healthy and figured out how to play again this season.
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It's the OL, WRs, Coaching, etc. Not his inaccuracy, INTs, fumbles, back pedaling, etc
Agian, pretty much everyone in this thread has said over and over, including myself Nuss has stuff to work on. Cutting down the INTs and working on intermediate passing game are big things he can work on, we can also get better around him too, it's not like he had an elite WR this year and good run game this season. We hopefully can get better there is all anyone is pointing out. That only helps the offense and Nuss as well.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:28 am to thunderbird1100
i am really glad Nuss is coming back b/c he has a lot of potential to be an elite QB.
In 2024, with a clean pocket, he flirted with elite status and was really good, except for consistency on deep passes.
Without a clean pocket, he was not good at all, and, at times, was pretty bad. In fairness, in those games, he had no running threat at all and defenses could tee off on him.
Experience will help, but there's no assurance he will ever achieve JB9 or JD5 status, which is Olympus.
In 2024, with a clean pocket, he flirted with elite status and was really good, except for consistency on deep passes.
Without a clean pocket, he was not good at all, and, at times, was pretty bad. In fairness, in those games, he had no running threat at all and defenses could tee off on him.
Experience will help, but there's no assurance he will ever achieve JB9 or JD5 status, which is Olympus.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:29 am to thunderbird1100
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Except you've clearly had an agenda out against Nuss basically all season long
Nope. Just combating ignorant takes when needed.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:32 am to Tiger1988
I've come to accept the fact that he is good for an INT or pick 6 a game with his gunslinger aka I can make every throw style of play.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:37 am to Lester Earl
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Nope. Just combating ignorant takes when needed.
Interesting, didnt see you combating your own very ignorant take son Nuss when you spewed them over and over like he was "Garbage" in SEC games.
P..S You're not fooling anyone on here, we all know you've had it out against Nuss this season and every single negative thing possible you point and exacerbate to the nth degree about him. Again, why? N oclue, but you've done it consistently and jump to every thread you possibly can about Nuss just to put him down. Whenever he has a good game you still cant help yourself and just focus on every negative this season. Thats a pretty clear agenda you have there.
Nuss was the highest graded player who played significantly on offense in 5 of our 13 games this season. Thats a pretty good player right there overall for you to constantly shite on and basically have to pull teeth to give any credit to.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:37 am to Tiger1988
WRs were a weak spot this year.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:06 pm to Lester Earl
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Not having first round WRs I’m sure hurt at times but it was also glaring he could not connect on open deep balls through most of the season. It is surely not all on the WRs.
I love how you don’t mention that he and Hilton hit on 4 deep balls for 3 TDs over the last two games now that the later, who we all know was by far the best deep threat on the team, is fully healthy and in game shape. I’m sure that’s just an aberration though, right
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:23 pm to misey94
That’s what he should be doing. Those are layup throws for good QB. And I just got done saying he’s played really good the last two games.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:35 pm to thunderbird1100
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like he was "Garbage" in SEC games.
I mean you are being a bit hyperbolic here. But I’m curious how you would rate his play in SEC games.
In the games LSU lost, it surely wasn’t despite his play. Or did you leave those games saying “man we really wasted a good one with Nuss”?
Even in wins vs Ole Miss and South Carolina there were huge WTF moments that you had hoped he would grow from, only to really nosedive thereafter
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:37 pm to Lester Earl
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But it’s like it hypnotizes people to where they cannot see how wildly inconsistent he was.
Vandy game?
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Not having first round WRs I’m sure hurt at times
Again YOU compare him to a 5 years starter in Daniels, who didn’t know how to fricking throw in coverage and would not, and Joe Burrow. Both of those guys, not only had a better Oline but also had far superior WRs and run game.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:43 pm to Tiger1988
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Again YOU compare him to a 5 years starter in Daniels, who didn’t know how to fricking throw in coverage and would not, and Joe Burrow
No thanks, I’m good. I’d rather just assume he will improve like most 2nd year starters would. I’m not going to assume he will achieve their level of success in the 2nd year.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:23 pm to Lester Earl
quote:no you’re absolutely have been owned because you did that vomit on paper thing you do without looking at all of the information. Rush to opinion instead of looking at facts and context.
No thanks, I’m good
Your dumbass self forgot to look at Oline, Receivers, run game, etc.
when you saw what myself and others stated, your arse had zero comeback.
Assuming he will improve, yeah right. Your answer was he was inconsistent then when I threw numbers of Russell and that shite load of talent he had, you have no answer.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 3:48 pm to Tiger1988
You haven’t said one thing that makes a lick of sense. Just pure emotion.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:34 pm to BayouCowboy
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Outside of JD, the one thing all previous QBs had which Nuss didn't was an above average run game
Not the only thing… he doesn’t have a first day drafted receiver.
Russell - Bowe Chiefs HoF - 1st Round; Buster Davis 1st Round; Early Doucet 2nd round
Joe Burrow - Chase, Jefferson, Marshall - top 2 in NFL and a guy that was Burrows favorite target in the endzone.
Daniels - Nabers, Thomas Jr -1st rounder top 8 receiver
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:26 pm to Tiger1988
Definitely will be throwing money on him to win the Heisman next year. With the talent he had around him he balled out. He’s a smart player once he cleans up his mistakes from this year, take off running when he needs to he will be an absolute problem next year.
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