re: Funny thing: White mentions need for more film time

Charles knows that.. after all, he is a former player. Lol

All we need in this thread is seeking greatness, spirt1, and draconian. They'll be up soon.

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Hc doesn't understand offense, so oc has to dumb it down? Lie much?

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look it douche

When the HC openly admits-twice-that he didnt know the personel package or the first play of the fricking game, that's someone who doesnt know the offense.

Standing on the sidelines with a headset on starring off into fricking space and doesnt know the scripted plays.

just ignore him. I'm truly beginning to believe he is an AD plant.

seriously, hes an idiot.

He won't answer. None of the O pumpers can answer that question, because deep down they know that O is not the right guy for this job. He's unqualified to fix ANY problems we have, whether it's the problems I believe we have, or the problems they believe we have.

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Not really sure this is a fair statement. When he didn't meddle people bitched. When he did meddle people bitched. Which is it?

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This is not true. People never wanted him to meddle.

The complaint for O was that he HAD to be a hands off coach. He didn't have the football IQ to meddle. We wanted a HC who was knowledgeable on one side of the ball so he could meddle. It' wasn't that we wanted Ed to meddle.

So yeah. Now that Ed is meddling, people are mad because he said he wouldn't do this. One of the selling points was that he was going to let his coordinators coach.

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You work them hard so they have investment, their work and time are now invested in LSU. Things like this may sound corny but it works and has worked for ages.

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Great post and I think you've hit the nail right on the head. None of us are there so obviously we can't know for sure. Given what we've seen from this team, this is my thinking if we have guys that aren't invested yet.

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When he didn't meddle people bitched. When he did meddle people bitched. Which is it?

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Orgeron openly admitted he overly micromanaged at OM.

Now, it appears he's doing it again. I can understand an offensive minded HC meddling in the offense, but a defensive line coach, who's never even been a coordinator, that's playing with hand grenades.

It is true.

After MSU everyone wanted O fired, he didn't mess with the offense. When we didn't blow Syracuse out of the water people wanted O fired, he didn't mess with the offense. When O didn't know Brossette would get the first carry everyone wanted O fired, apparently he didn't even know the offense so meddling was impossible I don't know why people are defending Canada. Is it because for one half of football, O tried to simplify things to get the team moving? Does Canada get a season pass for one half of football that he didn't call? All O said was he wanted to simplify the offense. There's no way people can fault him for that unless that was one of the issues they had initially with Miles, which may be the case.

There's plenty of reasons to want O gone, this though is not one of them. Its ticky tack as shite. Do you honestly think O should have let Canada continue calling those terrible plays and not moving the ball all because "he said he wouldn't"? Cmon man that's not reality.

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It is true.

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Show me a quote where someone wanted O to "dabble" in the offense?

Be a good place to mention this...

The small things matter. We know that the players are given iPads. But what we don't know is if players have enough access from dorm/home or that iPad to do film study at their convenience or do they have to go to football ops, sign out film access, etc etc. Especially after Brother Patterson was caught stealing. Did they tighten down on access to the point it's bottlenecking player access?

I have another related example (of small things that make a difference). A large, 72" or larger, TV for the players in the dorm/home. Don't laugh. Here's why:

A) if they have access and the right equipment, it makes it easier to view film at their convenience.
B) you can attach the value, hyper inflated, to the cost of being a player and increase the players stipend. You can't do such things to tuition, value of the education, etc. But you can with "freebies". Hell, you can add weight room access/rental, and meeting room time to the value the stipend is based on.

Again, don't laugh. Why is that stipend important? We're talking about individual self-motivated film time specifically in this thread. Think of that time for a player as "work". While other students, including students on academic scholarship, are getting jobs to cover all the stuff that scholarships do not cover (and they don't cover alot) one thing you want to do for atheletes is take that "issue" out of the equation. They have to worry less about money (stress), the school kinda owes it to them considering how much money they make for the program, and now they have that free(er) time to do said film study instead of getting a "fluff" job to make up some of that. And unlike the mob, you can't do a no-show job as a student athlete. NCAA is all over such things; so is LSU compliance Nazi's.

How does this relate to coaches?

Let's compare a Miles or Saban to a Herman or Orgeron.
A) A Miles/Saban having long-term experience with large programs know how to get things done bureaucratically, including who to talk to for what. In LSU's case, right now, that's Austin Thomas' job on behalf of CEO.

B) Miles/Saban, having NFL experience and connections (to stay up to date), can better stay current on the latest technology and techniques. Why do you think Saban hires all these consultants.

C) They know better how to work the system for such things as increased stipends or better access for athletes. Let's say they wanted to place 72" TV's in all the players domiciles, AND enhance secure access. A Miles/Saban can quickly hook up TAF (for funding), compliance, and 3rd party for networking (or the CS department head) and get it done.

D) Does an Orgeron/Herman fully understand the value of film study? I tend to think Miles did not. But by this question I mean value in the sense of devoting resources to it. Not just player time but such things as remote-secure access, a manager of such things to make sure the players get what they need when they need it, funding for that manager and department, bringing in new technology, paying for consultants, etc.

So just a little thing such as better access to film, sliced and diced for that specific player can have far reaching and significant impact on the field. If you want to be elite, such details and small things matter. And frick optics; I don't give a shite if a F. King doesn't like the "optics" of more free shite for a player. When private funding dries up via TAF only then when suck cucks realize you spend a dollar to save a dime.