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Funny how the saying is only used one way...
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:57 am
You hear "X coach won with Y's players" implying coach X isn't the reason for the success.
Wonder why "X coach lost because of Y's players" as an accepted saying. Or in our case specifically the lack of players
It's a rebuild, the logical people understood that before the game. Doesn't mean in any way that a certain number of wins have to be achieved else the season is a failure
Wonder why "X coach lost because of Y's players" as an accepted saying. Or in our case specifically the lack of players
It's a rebuild, the logical people understood that before the game. Doesn't mean in any way that a certain number of wins have to be achieved else the season is a failure
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:59 am to doliss
There's a TON of people hoping Kelly fails miserably.
SEC and Nationally
Use that as motivation and build a Dynasty.
SEC and Nationally
Use that as motivation and build a Dynasty.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:05 pm to doliss
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Doesn't mean in any way that a certain number of wins have to be achieved else the season is a failure
That's exactly what it means. How else are you going to judge the rebuilding progress? If you follow up 6-7 with 3-9, you are in no way rebuilding, you are still regressing.
I'm not saying we go 3-9, but missing a bowl and a losing record is certainly in play.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:07 pm to doliss
Kelly lost with his own players, he brought the transfers in that made up much of the offense on Saturday.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:11 pm to The First Cut
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Kelly lost with his own players, he brought the transfers in that made up much of the offense on Saturday.
The offense was so depleted that he had to bring in transfers to start immediately?
Sounds like, well, a rebuild.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:17 pm to RB10
It is a rebuild, no doubt about it. But, that's why OP's post doesn't make any sense. We lost and it wasn't winning or losing with another coach's players. This team is largely comprised of Kelly's people.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:20 pm to doliss
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Wonder why "X coach lost because of Y's players" as an accepted saying. Or in our case specifically the lack of players
Bama fans used this excuse in '07 a lot when they went 7-6 and lost to ULM and Florida State...
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:21 pm to The First Cut
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It is a rebuild, no doubt about it. But, that's why OP's post doesn't make any sense. We lost and it wasn't winning or losing with another coach's players. This team is largely comprised of Kelly's people.
Calling them Kelly's people is fricking dumb. It's relying heavily on transfers because what was left couldn't even fill out the 2 deep. Most of those transfers were necessary, not wished for.
"Kelly's people" will be the team that's on the field in 2023.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:22 pm to RB10
What's fricking dumb is insinuating they are anyone else's "players". I don't expect you to get it. 
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:23 pm to lsusteve1
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There's a TON of people hoping Kelly fails miserably.
I hope CBK retires with like 5 or more natty's. Period.
But Sunday night was a bitter pill to swallow. I expected to see a well-prepared, well-coached football team.
We were anything but that. 110% on Kelly.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:23 pm to lsusteve1
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There's a TON of people hoping Kelly fails miserably.
I hope CBK retires with like 5 or more natty's. Period.
But Sunday night was a bitter pill to swallow. I expected to see a well-prepared, well-coached football team.
We were anything but that. 110% on Kelly.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:23 pm to The First Cut
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What's fricking dumb is insinuating they are anyone else's "players". I don't expect you to get it.
No, what's fricking dumb is not acknowledging that the roster was so depleted that transfers, some from 2nd rate in state programs, were needed just to field a competitive team.
The transfers being necessary fall on Orgeron's staff, not Kelly's.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:27 pm to The First Cut
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Kelly lost with his own players, he brought the transfers in that made up much of the offense on Saturday.
And it was not the offense that lost the game. 3.3 points per possession (with 4 points left on the table by special teams) is more than enough to win.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:29 pm to RB10
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No, what's fricking dumb is not acknowledging that the roster was so depleted that transfers, some from 2nd rate in state programs, were needed just to field a competitive team.
The transfers being necessary fall on Orgeron's staff, not Kelly's.
I agree. CBK came here and there were 39 scholarship players. He had to get a team together in about 3 months. He did the best he could with transfers. "HIS" team will be the team that takes the field in 2024-2025 - those teams will be full of the players he recruited out of high school - not slim pickings from the transfer portal.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:38 pm to AlwysATgr
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I hope CBK retires with like 5 or more natty's. Period.
But Sunday night was a bitter pill to swallow. I expected to see a well-prepared, well-coached football team.
We were anything but that. 110% on Kelly.
This is me - to a T
I had allowed myself to think of great things magically happening this year. That game put me back in the hopes that I live to see the fruits of a revival - I know we'll get better, just looks like a bigger job than I had thought..
Posted on 9/6/22 at 1:12 pm to lsusteve1
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There's a TON of people hoping Kelly fails miserably. SEC and Nationally
True, but nobody hates LSU quite like LSU fans do
At this point, TD is a net negative for the program… sorry
Posted on 9/6/22 at 1:30 pm to TheRouxGuru
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At this point, TD is a net negative for the program… sorry
Agree with this, to an extent
Moderating the trolls better would help.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 2:02 pm to RB10
He brought in JD and if he sticks with him and the team loses 5 or 6 games that’s on him and his shitty QB.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 2:13 pm to TrouserTrout
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He brought in JD and if he sticks with him and the team loses 5 or 6 games that’s on him and his shitty QB.
Ah. So the losses would be on Daniels alone.
Got it.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 2:17 pm to RB10
No the losses will be on Kelly since he brought in a transfer when in my opinion we had two capable QBs maybe three in Brennan, nuss, and Howard.
JD won’t be the starter next year. So if he came here to lose 6 games that’s a complete waste of a year that could have been used on developing Nuss or Howard if they decided not to go with Brennan.
JD won’t be the starter next year. So if he came here to lose 6 games that’s a complete waste of a year that could have been used on developing Nuss or Howard if they decided not to go with Brennan.
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