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re: Fulton halfway through a two-year suspension

Posted on 3/13/18 at 1:46 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31916 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 1:46 am to
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It may be a failure that we didn't get a CB


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it isn't O's fault



For the third time, who is the head coach? Who is responsible for filling positions of need? You've said time and time again that O has met the team's needs and now you post this.

Point the finger at Surtain all you want but he isn't the only cb out there being recruited. You with all your mental acumen should know this. So now you're blaming a (singular, not plural) recruit for not signing with LSU? Like the kid isn't allowed to change his mind. I just said that recruits change their minds and that's no secret.

Which is it? It's on Surtain, an 18 year old kid or the head of the LSU football program? To be clear, not that Surtain didn't sign but that no cornerbacks were signed. That's on Surtain or O? You tell me.


This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 1:50 am
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 1:56 am to
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I didn't say deliberately, as in he was "sabotaging" the program but there is no way you can't tell me that he didn't know about nor for how long the Fulton suspension was. Like I said, he is the head coach correct?


Of course, he knew about the Fulton situation. Nonetheless Einstein, when and where did I suggest otherwise? Damn, what planet are you on?

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He knew of the lack of depth and recruited one cb? ONE?


With Kelvin Joseph already committed, who was a five-star CB until he switched to safety and became a high four-star at safety, all we needed was one CB.

Maybe you believe that O should have tried to sign two CBs, but most people like me wanted a QB because most people like me believe we should recruit at least one QB every year.

Nonetheless, had Surtain not been a lowlife scumbag who waited until the very last minute after two years of promises to inform O and Raymond that he wasn't coming, the other cornerback Goodrich would have been in this recruiting class. That's not O or Raymond's fault, that's that lowlife scumbag's fault.

Meanwhile, why are you panicking and throwing blame around like a damn female? Do you know that it will be a problem this season or is it just your time of the month? We have plenty of CBs and a glut of Safeties on the squad who can play both positions and Kelvin Joseph who is actually a better CB than he is a Safety has already been moved to CB. You better go change your panties before you bloody them up.

Your problem genius is you couldn't recognize the truth even if it stared you in the face, winked at you, and then spit in your eye.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 2:04 am to
Like I said, Einstein, you blame coach O every day the sun rises. Nobody really cares what you say least of all me because you have proven yourself to be extremely unhinged. So fly a kite.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31916 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 2:12 am to
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when and where did I suggest otherwise?


Did I say you suggested otherwise?
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all we needed was one CB.




I disagree. We lost Donte, we lost Toliver, that's two right there. We have Greedy with one season under his belt and who knows where Ed Paris is going to play.

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why are you panicking and throwing blame around like a damn female?


Never change. Yes, I'm the one that's wrong for pointing out the HEAD COACH did not recruit to the team's needs which is a big part of your argument about how great he is. Your post history shows it.

Like I said, you absolve O for any wrong doings, however serious or minor they may be. It's always someone else's fault. The guy running the program makes no mistakes ever, according to you.

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Your problem genius is you couldn't recognize the truth even if it stared you in the face, winked at you, and then spit in your eye.



You must like saying this. I bet next you're going to tell me to sell what I'm smoking and make a lot of money.


This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 2:16 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31916 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 2:13 am to
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you blame coach O every day the sun rises


I do? That's news to me.


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you have proven yourself to be extremely unhinged


Not sure why you're suggesting I'm "unhinged." I'm just rebutting your nonsense and it evidently has hit a nerve.

You won't admit O does anything wrong. If that's how you feel or see O, then so be it. You dismiss any argument about O from opposing views and say "I couldn't care less what you say/think" yet will post for pages how everyone else is wrong and you are right. That's a really dumb way to go about a debate. Those with common sense see it a more realistic way.

But since you know everything, inform all us common folk what we're missing. By all means.


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So fly a kite.



I actually enjoy flying kites. It's rather relaxing.
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 2:56 am
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19560 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 2:52 am to
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For the third time, who is the head coach? Who is responsible for filling positions of need? You've said time and time again that O has met the team's needs and now you post this.


True.

This is how I know these shithead O-pumpers work the third shift at the Dairy Queen.

They have no concept of overall management responsibility and no doubt pass the blame in their own minimum-wage jobs.

“The fryer got left on? It’s not my fault! Nobody reminded me to turn it off!”
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13517 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 4:45 am to
Dont want him! Let him transfer.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17384 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:00 am to
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you have proven yourself to be extremely unhinged.

This from the guy who keeps calling an 18 year old a "lowlife scumbag".
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7592 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:43 am to
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If it's the same process Saban had at LSU, it's structured like this:

- drug testing is handled by the football program. Not the AD. That's why you see so many Bama players get popped at the combine or admit to many failed tests in college.
- there is no formal discipline. Saban uses it as leverage over kids to get the most out of them or process them.
- kids who fail tests are put in a "treatment program".
- those players in the "treatment program" are asked not to be included in NCAA tests because the school has already identified their issue and are working towards correcting it.


It’s truly been chess vs. checkers since he left and came back. Unlevel playing field.

Cam & Hootie
Luther Davis
Cam Newton

Those are some of the most ludicrous NCAA issues I can recall, yet Fulton gets TWO YEARS. (Yes, I realize the last is Auburn)
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 6:49 am
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 8:42 am to
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This is stupid on several levels. Biggest one being you don’t know shite.




About Fulton? No

About Rummel, 100%.
Posted by tabary225
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2015
7 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 8:48 am to
These players are in extremely privileged positions. Is it really too much to ask them to follow rules and procedures. If you want to take prohibited substances and then try to cover it up... you deserve what you get.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33860 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 9:15 am to
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I may be the only person on this board, but I don’t blame O for what happened with Surtain, Goodrich, and Foster. Surtain created the problem. However, unlike you, I’m not an obsessed negatiger.

What was O supposed to do? For at least two solid years, Surtain promised O and Raymond that he was all LSU and then all of a sudden informs O at 11:00 PM on the night before signing day that he isn’t coming


You know what, I agree. Not O's fault.

The Surtain deal was crazy. This has to be the first time ever that a recruit has changed his mind about where he wanted to go. How could O possibly been prepared for someone changing their mind? It's practically unheard of.

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What was O supposed to do? For at least two solid years, Surtain promised O and Raymond that he was all LSU


Promised? Promised? Did you know that commitment and promise are synonyms?

So when did he commit to LSU? You aware of something the rest of us aren't?
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 9:32 am
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10961 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 12:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11038 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 2:09 pm to
North Carolina basketball fake/fraudulent classes : no penalty / alls well

Fraudulent test for one player: 2 years

What a joke.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28024 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 2:14 pm to
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calling an 18 year old a "lowlife scumbag".



What the Surtain family did to LSU was beyond shitty, with a hard count of schollies to offer and lots of positions of need that was fricked up.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33860 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 2:55 pm to
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What the Surtain family did to LSU was beyond shitty, with a hard count of schollies to offer and lots of positions of need that was fricked up.


They didn't do anything to LSU.

If they'd committed before then and then switched at the last minute, then ok. A commitment is saying you can count me against your numbers. To decommit at the last second is shitty behavior by a recruit.

This was not that. If the guy doesn't want to commit, guess what, you don't have him. He was never "all LSU." I don't give a frick what he tells the coaches. Silent commits, pinkie swears, whatever, they're all bullshite. You should consider the recruit a risk until he signs on the dotted line.

This is a pathetic road to go down, blaming an 18 year old kid over the guy that's supposed to be an expert at recruiting.
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 2:59 pm to
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Surtain not been a lowlife scumbag


calling 18 year olds lowlife scumbags for not choosing your alma mater?


the name calling you do to other posters is one thing, but this is so much worse. I am not sure how you sleep at night.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7834 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 3:10 pm to
Darryl is right.
Posted by Reda LSU
Los Angeles
Member since Jan 2013
4230 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 3:51 pm to
MY last 2 lineman are Jordan McFadden and Jack Plumb
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28024 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

What the Surtain family did to LSU was beyond shitty, with a hard count of schollies to offer and lots of positions of need that was fricked up.



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They didn't do anything to LSU.


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To decommit at the last second is shitty behavior by a recruit.



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I don't give a frick what he tells the coaches




Yeah man, it totally makes sense now...in your head.
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