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re: FOX News Uses Democracy Files to Outline Seditious Plot to Overthrow US Government

Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:06 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:06 am to
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The Dems have shifted from Blue wave in the last 2 weeks to the Republicans are gonna cheat. They are already setting up for this to be an illegitimate election. Exactly what Data Republican said would happen.

She said a LOT more than that, friend.

The new playbook is to call elections fake. That's nothing new. DEMs were doing that in 2017 and MAGA took it up 10x after 2020. Nobody gets points for predicting people who lose elections will call them fraudulent in America in 2026.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:07 am to
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No. DR is saying IF the Dems win, then they will carry out this coup. Not sure the logic in that.

Yeah he's engaging in kernel of truth fallacy, there.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:07 am to
I wonder if the other lying media outlets besides FOX will air it.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:10 am to
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Not sure the logic in that

It would be a signal to them that they hold the majority of consent.

I am not saying I believe this is going to happen, but legacy media has been feeding each side venom for 10+ years. Add to that online media and over time a fire will start. Media being used to stoke the fires has been proven through several conflicts in the later 20th century. Our own beloved government was behind at least one(most likely more). To blindly say "this could not happen" or "they have no authority" is to turn a blind eye to how things really do happen and why.
Posted by FleurDeLonestar
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:14 am to
So let's run with the idea that there was a legitimate plan for this color revolution. Now that the cover has been blown, there's no way any large number of people would be trying to go through with the plan now.

I'm not saying there aren't groups of people that hope this happens, I'm saying that it'd be ballsy to follow through in 2026.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:23 am to
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It would be a signal to them that they hold the majority of consent.


I mean, maybe, but only in terms of perception. Within their little echo chamber, they would be amplifying their impact.

This is the same shite I tell MAGA people pushing revolution n here all the time. Normal people aren't going to participate in this LARP nonsense, and the vast majority of this country is still normal and outside the polar echo chambers.

It's doubtful they could even mimic the 2020 protests, let alone make them larger to where Trump would use the Insurrection Act.

And the machinations for the governors to make their own country, or whatever, doens't make any sense.

This is fantasy LARPing from the craziest part of a polar echo chamber, being projected relying on a form of the argument from authority fallacy to rile up a polar echo chamber, but only the craziest parts of that polar echo chamber.
This post was edited on 10/22/26 at 8:24 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:30 am to
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So let's run with the idea that there was a legitimate plan for this color revolution. Now that the cover has been blown, there's no way any large number of people would be trying to go through with the plan now.

I'm not saying there aren't groups of people that hope this happens, I'm saying that it'd be ballsy to follow through in 2026.

How exactly can one stop it?

If there were a large enough faction to wish a revolution, how would one go about stopping it? To try would be to prove the side wanting it correct within their own mind. The side attempting to prevent it will be seen a nationalists and will be villianized thus sparking even more conflict.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:35 am to
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Half the day people here were saying fox news is full of it. Then they report this and they are the paragon of news sources now. It's funny how many pick and choose based on what they want to hear.


And in true conspiracy-addicted populist fashion, none of them will remember this when it never comes to pass, but will instead claim, "Well, the conspiracy theorists are batting 1.000" the next time some conspiracy theory comes true.

Which happens about 1 out of every 50 of them or so.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:41 am to
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I mean, maybe, but only in terms of perception. Within their little echo chamber, they would be amplifying their impact

All any faction ever needs is their own echo chamber. To know you are right, beyond doubt is enough.
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This is the same shite I tell MAGA people pushing revolution n here all the time. Normal people aren't going to participate in this LARP nonsense, and the vast majority of this country is still normal and outside the polar echo chambers

Normal people never do participate, unless pressed into service, but they indeed suffer.
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It's doubtful they could even mimic the 2020 protests, let alone make them larger to where Trump would use the Insurrection Act.

I think you are miscalculating the bubbling tensions or maybe I am. I see alot going on in the world today. I think we are lucky we haven't felt it.
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And the machinations for the governors to make their own country, or whatever, doens't make any sense.

It never does, until it does. Authority can spring from anywhere. Why did Kosovo, a country that never existed before, spring up in revolt even after the Albanians were historically given preferential treatment by the Slavs? Why do Serbs think they can be a blight on Bosnia today with their little "republic"? None of it makes sense. Doesn't have to.
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This is fantasy LARPing from the craziest part of a polar echo chamber, being projected relying on a form of the argument from authority fallacy to rile up a polar echo chamber, but only the craziest parts of that polar echo chamber.

Historically, that is how it always starts. Magnified by factions in all forms of media. Control the media, control the minds is a truth.

Doesn't matter if you or I do not believe. Is there really a plan for revolution? There is actually always a plan. That is why we red team/blue team all the time(by we, I mean the military). Will it ever be a serious threat? History says yes. Will it be this year? Probably not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:42 am to
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And in true conspiracy-addicted populist fashion, none of them will remember this when it never comes to pass, but will instead claim, "Well, the conspiracy theorists are batting 1.000" the next time some conspiracy theory comes true.


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Which happens about 1 out of every 50 of them or so.


Also correct.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486338 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:44 am to
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All any faction ever needs is their own echo chamber. To know you are right, beyond doubt is enough.

To take over the US, you're going to need more than just your miniscule echo chamber

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Normal people never do participate,

In America, being 50 states with 3k miles between oceans and 330M+ people, you 're going to need normal people....and a LOT of them

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It never does, until it does.



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Why did Kosovo, a country that never existed before, spring up in revolt even after the Albanians were historically given preferential treatment by the Slavs? Why do Serbs think they can be a blight on Bosnia today with their little "republic"?

In these scenarios, there is at least a power dynamic.

That doesn't exist in this fantasy scheme.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15712 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:45 am to
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That's nothing new. DEMs were doing that in 2017 and MAGA took it up 10x after 2020.


Was it just the Democrats back then?

I have a vague memory of Trump front-loading doubt into the 2016 election before it happened.

But I may just be transposing 2020 onto that.
This post was edited on 10/22/26 at 8:46 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:46 am to
I think he cried about Iowa when Cruz won. But, I don't remember much after that.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8915 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:53 am to
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To take over the US, you're going to need more than just your miniscule echo chamber

Simulations run by military always say the same thing. No one wins. At least for a decade or more. It breaks down and simmers into a slow burn. No side has full control, but the country is fractured.
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In America, being 50 states with 3k miles between oceans and 330M+ people, you 're going to need normal people....and a LOT of them

History says no. Most normies just want to live like normal. There will be militias and the military will fracture, but most of the population will try to just get on with life.
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In these scenarios, there is at least a power dynamic.


You think there is no power dynamic here? The country with the two most powerful political parties in the world has no power dynamic? Ok.
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That doesn't exist in this fantasy scheme.

Exists enough to be taken seriously by TPTB, even if not by you or many others.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8915 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:57 am to
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I think he cried about Iowa when Cruz won. But, I don't remember much after that

Side note. I have eaten at Hamburg Inn Diner here in Iowa City. That is the famous diner all presidential hopefuls eat at while campaigning Iowa. It is a little hole in the wall with awesome food. There are pictures all most presidents on the wall and supposedly they all get "the presidential breakfast", which is actually pretty cheap.
Posted by goatmilker
With Chinese expect nationalism
Member since Feb 2009
78391 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:58 am to
They have already tried this.
No kings
No Wall St
BLM
Free Palestine
Same people, same funding, same msm and dim supporters.
College kids. The female Karen's and the letter people. This is their rent-a-army. This is why they fail.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486338 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 8:59 am to
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They have already tried this.
No kings
No Wall St
BLM
Free Palestine
Same people, same funding, same msm and dim supporters.


And each example ended up nowhere near a "color revolution"
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
75272 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:32 am to
And her "source" is Data Republican. Retard.
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