re: Fournette Highlights vs UF (all carries video)

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. I think he averaged a little over 2 yards per carry and had a long run of 5 yards in that one.

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He only got 8 carries and his average suffered because of two bad pitches, I think. One was his fault and the other was just a bad play call. His average would have been over 4 without those two.

they ran him out of the I almost every single carry...if we start running him more from the spread his numbers will go way up and he won't have so many hard collisions. also, we didn't even throw it to him once.

awesome. thanks for posting this

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also, we didn't even throw it to him once.

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I'm no expert, but it sure seems like LF would be a nightmare mismatch for opposing defenses to cover out of the backfield or in motion. He has such great hands. Magee is a very good 3rd down back, but I would like to see LF play more of a role there.

The run you showed he got tackled by one man who picked him up and flipped him over backwards! Good grief you don't understand the concept of "refuse to go down." Pierre Thomas runs with that style and most backs are not big enough to do it like LF probably can.

I said the guy has all the tools and that he trucks people but some of you inbreds think that he is already a flawless running back in his seventh game in college. The dude will be get better the next two years and it will be because he will maintain his balance better and he will break more tackles. AND he will learn to cut more.

Nope, the guy is not Adrian Peterson yet... but he probably will be. But i know we are not supposed to critique SOME players...

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The run you showed he got tackled by one man who picked him up and flipped him over backwards! Good grief you don't understand the concept of "refuse to go down." Pierre Thomas runs with that style and most backs are not big enough to do it like LF probably can.

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He dragged that linebacker on his back for an extra 2 yard gain...

You're right, that was a soft run.
They have plenty of plays like that on PTs highlight reel.

LINK

You're an idiot if you don't think that was refusing to go down. He can't violate the laws of physics

Like I already stated, LF had double digit MTs wracked up in that game...


Also, PT isn't the bruiser that LF is. PT is one of the best in the league at avoiding contact, but can certainly drag a guy a few yards on his back lack LF did on that play

He's been one of the most elusive backs in the NFL for years. That is honestly LF's biggest problem right now. He goes looking for contact when he's show the ability to completely avoid it. PT causes a lot of missed tackles, but he doesn't really run over people.

That video emphasizes that Fournette runs much better when not receiving the stupid toss dive.

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Dude you are a frickin idiot

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Calm down

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e can't even be looking at the same play

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Obviously not, you're complaining about a play where he got over 2 yards after contact

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because he got stood up,

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He was never stood up on that play. He chest remains towards the ground until finally getting pulled back, or flipped, over the UF player after taking him on a 8-10 foot journey courtesy of his back

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My whole contention was BREAKING tackles,

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He had over 10 missed tackles in this game. If that is your contention, you picked an incredibly idiotic game to bring it up

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How deaf are you??? Can you read??

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I've fully comprehended everything that you have posted. I'm sorry that you being wrong upsets you so much

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The first guy ain't gonna tackle PT.

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PT is one of the most elusive runners in the NFL since 2009. While being pretty damn consistent, his best season in terms of Missed Tackles and ranking was 2009.

Per PFF, he had 185 touches that season and caused 35 missed tackles. So that means the first guy took him down or he ran out of bounds 81.08% of the time.

On the ground, he caused 19 missed tackles in 147 attempts. That equals 87% of the time from the ground.

He was 3rd best in the NFL in 2009, even ahead of Adrian Peterson

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I have watched all 27 carries from UF game and its usually the first guy, whether he carries him for ten yards or not.

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You realize that averaging 10 yards after contact would be one of the most incredible feats in modern competitive football?

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LISTEN CAREFULLY YOU DUMB TWIT,

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You realize this is a sports message board. Calm down.

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but good grief he usually goes down with the first solid contact.

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Good football players tend to go down when other good football players get a solid tackle on them. For every Adrian Peterson, their is a Patrick Willis. A hammer and a nail one might say.

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And look how many times a guy stuck his hand out and tripped him.

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You tell me. once or twice? In the video that you're crying about, he actually avoids the low arm tackle, takes the contact from UF's middle linebacker, then gets another 2+ yards on top of it. Not impressive though b/c the other really strong, athletic, and heavy guy used his weight to pull LF down after a nice ride.

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I said specifically in my first post that it was around the feet where he seems to go down easy.

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Many running backs, and people in general, have issues staying upright when a 300 pound man grabs an ankle when running at 15+ mph

You seem to be mistaking falling forward for a few yards for giving up or going down easy. It took Reggie Bush and Mark Ingram a long time to realize that getting 1-2 yards, while not great, still puts the team in a legit shot for the set of downs. Losing 3 yards trying to bust a 20 yard run hurts the team a lot more than it helps.

LF7 seems to understand that as a true freshman

Since he goes down by a hand so often, please point out the numerous plays in the video that it happened.


It may, MAY have happened twice in this game while going full speed and getting hit at around 18-19 mph. He still managed to get between 3-5 extra yards after that contact on those plays

You must not have much to do. Without even going back there's three where a hand got him dude, one right at the line of scrimmage and he fell flat on his face toward the sideline, hardly going downhill. And the Ten missed? or is it broken?? Or is that whiffs? or maybe guys who just looked at him crosseyed. Hmmm.. And is that your count? Or did somebody do that for you.

You are good with quotes but pretty slow when it comes to comprehension so listen close...Pound for pound, and factoring in his super human package in speed and power and vision, LF goes down pretty easy. It's one of two things that he must, and probably will improve on. The other being his pension for running into the pile, especially on kickoffs.

In the next two and a half seasons, when you see him leaving six or seven guys laying in the dirt in his wake, then you will see what he should be doing with all those tools. You keep promoting the idea that any back would go down with x happening... but if this kid lives up to his gifts, he will not be just any back who goes down on first contact and you will finally learn the concept of "refusing to go down."

And you can thank me for learning that concept.

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You must not have much to do.

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I took a staycation this week. Have all the time in the world this week

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Without even going back there's three where a hand got him dude

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I went back and watch them all. He had 2 where he got tripped up by a hand, both WAAAY downfield

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and he fell flat on his face toward the sideline, hardly going downhill.

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You mean after gaining 25+ yards and getting a lot of yards after contact.

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And the Ten missed? or is it broken?? Or is that whiffs? or maybe guys who just looked at him crosseyed.

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Do I really need to explain to you what the term missed tackle means?

And it would include a missed tackle forced by LF7. So that would include a truck, running through a tackle, making a guy miss with an incredible spin move, etc. Making a guy miss is actually much more beneficial

Btw, your comparison, the great PT Cruiser is better at making people miss than just breaking tackles.

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You are good with quotes

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Those were called stats. Those are facts used to backup a position.

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Pound for pound, and factoring in his super human package in speed and power and vision, LF goes down pretty easy

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Wait, I thought he just went down easy. Now we're factoring him in as a an all-time great?

The fact is that he doesn't go down easy. Anyone with eyes on Saturday saw that when he brought the Gators into the endzone by going right through them, or when he continuously got yards after contact

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The other being his pension for running into the pile, especially on kickoffs.

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I've already said that he needs to do less of this. He looks for contact. He needs to learn from PT that making people miss is just as effective if not more. It allows you to maintain speed.

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In the next two and a half seasons, when you see him leaving six or seven guys laying in the dirt in his wake, then you will see what he should be doing with all those tools.

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I'm glad you brought up reading comprehension, because you're creating something that I never claimed:

I don't think anyone here has argued that he's a finished product yet, but he certainly left a lot of Gators in the dirt this last week.

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You keep promoting the idea that any back would go down with x happening... but if this kid lives up to his gifts, he will not be just any back who goes down on first contact and you will finally learn the concept of "refusing to go down."

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So until he becomes an all-time great, he can't refuse to go down? Makes sense. He was carrying the pile all night and getting yards after contact. Sorry you're too blind to appreciate that.

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And you can thank me for learning that concept.

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Congrats, you had an argument against yourself in that last paragraph.

You've already shown to have absolutely no idea what you're talking about with the PT comment. That is missed tackles too, not broken tackles

I did enjoy your meltdown and language though.