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re: Former LSU players had high praise for Coach Orgeron and his staff

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Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:06 pm to
Sorry it’s the truth, your attempt to create a fantasy to cover your ignorance about polls isn’t fooling anyone. You don’t know what you’re talking about you’re just making stuff up and hoping we’ll buy your bluff.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:07 pm to
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Right. Polling 61 people will get you a even set of results just like polling 1000 would.


Compare the composite to the AP, they're damn close.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Sorry it’s the truth, your attempt to create a fantasy to cover your ignorance about polls isn’t fooling anyone. You don’t know what you’re talking about you’re just making stuff up and hoping we’ll buy your bluff.


You've added nothing, junior but snide attacks from the back alley.

You piggyback off of others
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:09 pm to
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Bias is mitigated by using multiple pollsters from all over the country


AND EVERYONE OF THEM ARE BIASED IN THEIR OWN WAY.

Youre not adding unbiased voters to the biased voters.

Example:
48 represents biased voters
51 represents unbiased voters
-49 + 51 = 2

All voters are biased in some way
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:10 pm to
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Compare the composite to the AP, they're damn close.


So the bias of the 61 AP voters isn't eliminated by adding together a bunch of individual polls?

Thanks for proving my point for me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:11 pm to
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AND EVERYONE OF THEM ARE BIASED IN THEIR OWN WAY.


But they aren't biased in the same way, which is why you poll so many.


How do you feel about Massey?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:13 pm to
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But they aren't biased in the same way, which is why you poll so many.




The vast majority of the voters will be biased towards a handful of teams.

Alabama
Texas
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
USC

Hell, even Miami was severely over ranked due to voter bias because of the logo on their helmet.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:15 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:14 pm to
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The vast majority of the voters will be biased towards a handful of teams.


Actually conferences, not necessarily teams.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:14 pm to
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The composite has hundreds.





And every single voter is biased in their own way.
They are biased in regards to what criteria they are judging on.

IE one voter c rank by best losses
Another voter can rank off best win

What voters choose to carry weight is biased and subjective.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:14 pm to
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Hell, even Miami was severely over ranked


Preseason is worthless
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:15 pm to
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Massey over any of your opinions any day



Youre giving nothing but opinions.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:16 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:16 pm to
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Actually conferences, not necessarily teams.


Yeah, that's a thing too. Team bias and conference bias aren't mutually exclusive. Both exist.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:17 pm to
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But they aren't biased in the same way, which is why you poll so many. 



Which adds to the bias.
Being biased in one way and adding bias in another way DOES NOT EQUAL UNBIASED.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:17 pm to
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Preseason is worthless


By the same 61 people you're putting 100% of your faith in. It's also the proof of bias you keep saying doesn't exist.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:17 pm to
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And every single voter is biased in their own way.
They are biased in regards to what criteria they are judging on.


Individual bias is attempted to be mitigated by methodology.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:19 pm to
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Individual bias is attempted to be mitigated by methodology.


Attempted, not succeeded.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:19 pm to
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By the same 61 people you're putting 100% of your faith in


That's retarded.

What's more accurate, end of season or before anyone plays a game? No one knows shite preseason

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:20 pm to
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For practical purposes is is as close as you'll get to weeding out individual bias. Unless you want to poll millions




You just said....
quote:

Polls aren't biased


That backpedal was sloppy
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:20 pm to
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Here it comes the pivot. Now he will try to change his stance while claiming he never meant everything he said but that you only took it the wrong way or “were too stupid” to understand him. It’s anothwr one of his brilliant tactics lmfao



That train is never late.


By Saturday he will be denying that he ever claimed polls were unbiased and asking you to link it.

This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:21 pm to
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Attempted, not succeeded.


Again, post season AP is pretty damn close to the composite. They're doing something right.

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