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re: Former LSU players had high praise for Coach Orgeron and his staff

Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:21 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:21 pm to
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That's retarded.

What's more accurate, end of season or before anyone plays a game? No one knows shite preseason


You're putting your faith in the same people postseason as preseason, and both the polls end up having heavy bias towards certain teams.

Welcome to college football. Where have you been for the last 120 years?
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:22 pm to

NO Correlation between AP Pre and Post: Teams, Schedules, Schemes, all change year to year.

Unless you are ALA or Clemson.






Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:23 pm to
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You're putting your faith in the same people postseason as preseason


Absolutely. They've watched 12-15 weekends of football.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:24 pm to
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Again, post season AP is pretty damn close to the composite.


Right. For the second time, this only proves that the composite doesn't mitigate bias.

The AP poll is proven to be biased.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:27 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:24 pm to
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NO Correlation between AP Pre and Post: Teams, Schedules, Schemes, all change year to year.


Who are you talking to here, because everyone is aware
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:24 pm to
Again nothing but projection when you’re exposed. Btw the committee and pollsters have come under heavy fire for biased rankings and placing undeserving teams ahead of team who’ve actually proven it on the field so you’re wrong but that’s common.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:25 pm to
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So in your opinion the AP poll doesn't do enough to mitigate personal bias? It's as close as well get 





2 hours ago......
quote:

Polls aren't biased



How heavy was that goal post?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:26 pm to
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Absolutely. They've watched 12-15 weekends of football.


Do you think every person who votes watches every single football game from every single weekend?

No, they don't. That would be impossible. That means that more often than not their voting based on outside influences and their own personal beliefs. I.e. they're biased.

Multiple this by 10 polls and you have 10 biased polls. Add all of those polls together and you have a composite of 10 polls that were biased. The composite result now illustrates those biased polls.


This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:28 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:27 pm to
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quote:

So in your opinion the AP poll doesn't do enough to mitigate personal bias? It's as close as well get




2 hours ago......
quote:
Polls aren't biased


You just can't read

Polls =\= personal bias. Polls are collective. I can define that if you want
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:28 pm to
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Do you think every person who votes watches every single football game from every single weekend?


No, but everyone has a much better idea of the quality of a team in week 14 than week 0

Except you, apparently
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:29 pm to
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No, but everyone has a much better idea of the quality of a team in week 14 than week 0

Except you, apparently


I haven't once argued that preseason means more than postseason you dolt. I'm simply pointing out the fact that the people who were biased in the preseason are still biased in the postseason.

Do try and keep up.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:31 pm to
You’re just plain stupid and that’s all there is to it. You’ve gone into an elaborate cover attempt because earlier you showed your arse and it was some of the dummest most ignorant posts ever placed on this site so you’ve gone off on this unprovable made up story about how the voters purposely collaborate to make sure bias is avoided. Lmfao what a ridiculous hair brained and stupid idea. You don’t even have a clue as to how many voters there are. You started at hundreds then when we corrected you you pretended that you knew how many there were all along. I mean you actually thought the BCS was still in use and as the composite poll non the less lmfao. You’re a moron
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:32 pm to
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haven't once argued that preseason means more than postseason you dolt.


Then why keep asking your retarded question?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:32 pm to
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A composite opinion isn't biased. It may be influenced by bias




So let me get this straight.....

You acknowledge that people are biased.

Those biased people create the biased polls.

The composite takes those biased polls and finds the mean.

For the 12th time.
Adding up biased polls doesnt make polls unbiased.

Adding and averaging biased polls to for a composite isnt make them unbiased.



Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:33 pm to
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Then why keep asking your retarded question?


Which one is that, specifically.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:33 pm to
Like I said, plain stupid
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:34 pm to
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He actually just told me that the BCS is a non biased and composite poll followed by a dancing Emoji and “facts bitch” lmfao


Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:34 pm to
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You acknowledge that people are biased.

Those biased people create the biased polls.

The composite takes those biased polls and finds the mean.


The mean is now magically not biased. Why? Because composite.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:35 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:34 pm to
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You’re just plain stupid and that’s all there is to it. You’ve gone into an elaborate cover attempt because earlier you showed your arse and it was some of the dummest most ignorant posts ever placed on this site so you’ve gone off on this unprovable made up story about how the voters purposely collaborate to make sure bias is avoided. Lmfao what a ridiculous hair brained and stupid idea. You don’t even have a clue as to how many voters there are. You started at hundreds then when we corrected you you pretended that you knew how many there were all along. I mean you actually thought the BCS was still in use and as the composite poll non the less lmfao. You’re a moron


There are hundreds .

There are also dozens of polls

Here you go, little guy

LINK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:37 pm to
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So let me get this straight.....

You acknowledge that people are biased.

Those biased people create the biased polls.

The composite takes those biased polls and finds the mean.

For the 12th time.
Adding up biased polls doesnt make polls unbiased.

Adding and averaging biased polls to for a composite isnt make them unbiased.




Can you think of a more accurate method?

It seems using more sources and voters would be more accurate than some dude from Podunk Tennessee
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