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re: Former LSU players had high praise for Coach Orgeron and his staff
Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:49 am to la_birdman
Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:49 am to la_birdman
Miles avg record 9.5 wins 2.8 losses
0 avg record 9.5 wins 3.5 losses
Miles - 3 division titles
2 SEC titles
2 national title games
1 national title
0- two 3rd place divisional finishes
How can you possibly say that’s improvement? You can’t just hand pick the worst seasons of one guy and compare them to the best of the other and call that an even comparison.
0 avg record 9.5 wins 3.5 losses
Miles - 3 division titles
2 SEC titles
2 national title games
1 national title
0- two 3rd place divisional finishes
How can you possibly say that’s improvement? You can’t just hand pick the worst seasons of one guy and compare them to the best of the other and call that an even comparison.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 2:52 am
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:53 am to Madking
I agree, Miles has the better record. Which is what we should all be expecting O to fulfill.
Instead of going to the citrus bowl again, we got to a NY6 bowl and won. Even if you don't like O. That's an improvement from since he took over.
I didn't expect us to win the natty last year but there are things that need to be worked on. High expectations. Like you said:
Win the west (that's the biggest one for me)
But I'm also not going to pretend that he was on fire with his coaching this entire season. There are things to work on.
Instead of going to the citrus bowl again, we got to a NY6 bowl and won. Even if you don't like O. That's an improvement from since he took over.
I didn't expect us to win the natty last year but there are things that need to be worked on. High expectations. Like you said:
Win the west (that's the biggest one for me)
But I'm also not going to pretend that he was on fire with his coaching this entire season. There are things to work on.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 2:57 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:56 am to Madking
Madking, i thought your figures sounded like horse shite so i checked myself. Their had been 16 seasons (2000-2015) of the Miles/saben era. Of those 16 only 6 finished with higher ranked teams than Orgerons 2nd season as head coach. So in Orgerons 2nd season he has done what Miles and Sabin failed to do in 10 out of their 16 seasons as HC's. And you want to claim Orgeron hasnt done shite. GFY.
It took Orgeron 2 seasons to get LSU back into the top 10. Which is where they belong
It took Orgeron 2 seasons to get LSU back into the top 10. Which is where they belong
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 2:59 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:59 am to boxcar willie
quote:
It took Orgeron 2 seasons to get LSU back into the top 10
With most of Miles' staff. Yes, he did do that but let's not pretend it was all his doing.
O didn't hire Aranda. Heck, Miles hired O. So just keep that little fact in mind.
But again, he has done admirably. Just trying to be realistic, not trying to drag anyone's name through the mud.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 3:02 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:03 am to la_birdman
ok first off the NY6 bowl everyone is drooling over doesn’t hold the status it did before the playoffs. If the old setup were still in place we wouldn’t have been in that bowl game wedve been in a Citrus Bowl type game. We finished 3rd in the West and 5th in the SEC overall that’s what counts because that determines how far from our actual goals we are. There’s no trophy for being ranked 6th it’s an opinion poll that means nothing. Our goals are to win the division, win the SEC, get to a playoff and win a national title. The 2 guys before him did all of those things and did all of them from year one to year four. Even Dinardo tied for the division title in year 2 but 0 hadn’t come close to even doing that. This is what I mean when I say where’s the improvement. We were a 3 loss team in Miles last year and recruiting has dropped off significantly since 0 arrived so again I’ll ask where’s the tangible improvement?
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:05 am to boxcar willie
Lmfao wow
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:05 am to boxcar willie
quote:
Madking, i thought your figures sounded like horse shite so i checked myself. Their had been 16 seasons (2000-2015) of the Miles/saben era. Of those 16 only 6 finished with higher ranked teams than Orgerons 2nd season as head coach. So in Orgerons 2nd season he has done what Miles and Sabin failed to do in 10 out of their 16 seasons as HC's. And you want to claim Orgeron hasnt done shite. GFY.
It took Orgeron 2 seasons to get LSU back into the top 10. Which is where they belong
Holy shite.
That left a mark.
I still can't figure how somebody can argue that LSU isn't in a better place.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:07 am to boxcar willie
Now it is up to Orgeron to make LSU a regular fixture in the top 10 like we were in the glory years from 2005 through 2008.
Also needs to get us back on the hunt of challenging for the playoffs and challenging bama for the SEC west title on a regular basis once again. We still have a lot of distance to close in that regard but we are inching closer to it
Also needs to get us back on the hunt of challenging for the playoffs and challenging bama for the SEC west title on a regular basis once again. We still have a lot of distance to close in that regard but we are inching closer to it
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:07 am to bencoleman
Because they’re not, rankings literally don’t mean a thing.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:10 am to Madking
quote:
Because they’re not, rankings literally don’t mean a thing
Rankings don't matter to you because you can't use them to bolster your twisted arguments. I promise if they weren't in coach O's favor you'd be trumpeting them out all over the place.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:10 am to Madking
quote:
first off the NY6 bowl everyone is drooling over doesn’t hold the status it did before the playoffs
We didn't go back to the Franklin Mortgage bowl or whatever. We went to a good bowl game. I'm not trying to be jerk but come on..... you have to give at least a little credit.
quote:
I’ll ask where’s the tangible improvement?
We got to a NY6 bowl. And won it. If you disagree, then you disagree. I see that as a good thing, (not a shot at you) but like I said, there are things that need to be worked on and fixed. That's fair.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 3:18 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:13 am to boxcar willie
quote:
needs to get us back on the hunt of challenging for the playoffs and challenging bama for the SEC west title on a regular basis once again. We still have a lot of distance to close in that regard but we are inching closer to it
2019 is going to be a great season.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:18 am to la_birdman
No I’m glad we did and glad we played well, it’s good because the guys can feel good about it and it gives the fans a nice buzz and some momentum for next season. I should’ve been more clear about what I meant, moving up to #6 in a post season poll doesn’t mean anything because it doesn’t win anything for you or put you in position to win anything. Being ranked 6th during the season is different but moving up to 6 post season is no different than being 15th.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:21 am to bencoleman
Talk about me to your boyfriends or crack jokes if you want but don’t address me personally because you’re nothing but a zero know nothing propaganda artist. When youre asked to prove or defend something you say with facts or proof you either insult the person or dodge the question and I have no use for conversing with an immature child who’s also an a-hole. Kindly frick off and go back to nob slobbing your friends.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 3:23 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:23 am to la_birdman
Dont count me in as Orgeron is the best sver either. Just saying he has done a very good job since taking over and that i have been very impressed and did not expect to feel this way when he was hired. I for one, at tbe time, wanted Herman and when that fell through, thought Fleck might be a good hire. But now i feel much better about the O hire and really like the direction that he has gotton the team going, in just 2 seasons. I am very happy we wound up with Coach O.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:31 am to TrueTigerTale
quote:
What Coach O has done is to improve LSU's QB play, improve LSU's kicking game, but what separates him from Miles are his organization skills and time clock management. Coach O also had ro rebuild the O-line and D-line which was in decline under Miles.
nice troll. In case someone forgot, O was the recruiting coordinator and dline coach. AND LSU lost 11 Oline a s Dlinemen including a starter when Miles was released.
But to your response the the post by the other poster, Miles was nearly fired after going 9-3 in 2015 with a game cancelled against a top 5 SOS. That’s the same number of losses last year.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:40 am to Tiger1988
Yes, because he had just come off a 8-5 season. How about a Little context when you post pal?
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:46 am to boxcar willie
quote:and 13-1 just a few years before playing for a NC. Better than 3-23 pal. I wanted Miles run just go look at the number of posts in my history, but in no way did I want to settle for something worse. He doesn’t get an extension without improvement and last year wasn’t that when you look at the losses and how teams finished pal.
Yes, because he had just come off a 8-5 season. How about a Little context when you post pal?
Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:04 am to Madking
You went from this.
by Madking online on 1/20/19 at 7:07 pm to bencoleman
Let me ask you this, what is the threshold for you personally to say that 0 isn’t meeting the standards laid before him? Is 10 wins and 3rd place in the west enough for you? Does he need a division title, does he need an SEC title game appearance, an SEC title period, a playoff appearance or does he need a National title game appearance or a national championship? On top of that how many years in your opinion does he get to accomplish these goals?
To this.
Because you are actually the immature a-hole that can't handle someone else's opinion. The general consensus is that LSU is doing better than they have in years. This is backed up by a fiesta bowl win which you discount. A top 6 ranking which you discount. A top 3 recruiting class which you discount. Yet somehow other people are all of these things and you're the reasonable one.
Then you like others in this thread cry about being insulted all while insulting someone.
You're nothing but another crybaby.
by Madking online on 1/20/19 at 7:07 pm to bencoleman
Let me ask you this, what is the threshold for you personally to say that 0 isn’t meeting the standards laid before him? Is 10 wins and 3rd place in the west enough for you? Does he need a division title, does he need an SEC title game appearance, an SEC title period, a playoff appearance or does he need a National title game appearance or a national championship? On top of that how many years in your opinion does he get to accomplish these goals?
To this.
quote:
Talk about me to your boyfriends or crack jokes if you want but don’t address me personally because you’re nothing but a zero know nothing propaganda artist. When youre asked to prove or defend something you say with facts or proof you either insult the person or dodge the question and I have no use for conversing with an immature child who’s also an a-hole. Kindly frick off and go back to nob slobbing your friends
Because you are actually the immature a-hole that can't handle someone else's opinion. The general consensus is that LSU is doing better than they have in years. This is backed up by a fiesta bowl win which you discount. A top 6 ranking which you discount. A top 3 recruiting class which you discount. Yet somehow other people are all of these things and you're the reasonable one.
Then you like others in this thread cry about being insulted all while insulting someone.
You're nothing but another crybaby.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:05 am to Tiger1988
13-1 then a steady decline pal. Hadn't sniffed the top 10 since 2011. Program was becoming irrelevant in the college football conversation. Now we are back in as a team to be taken seriously once again.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 5:10 am
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