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re: Former LSU player Jalen Collins says Les Miles sabotaged his draft stock

Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:11 am to
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29974 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:11 am to
That interview is at least 2 years old
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:31 am to
His biggest QB recruits were Perrilloux, Shepard, Mett, and Harris (I guess)…..those turned out great….Mett basically regressed under Miles and you could argue his NFL career suffered because of it.

Here just a few of the rest…..Hatch, Zach Lee (why Les went all in on a guy my fiancé at the time knew was going pro ball is beyond me), Bolden, Jennings, Etling, McMillan….a real who’s who there!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:38 am to
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He's basically saying Coach Miles leaked failed drug test rumors right before the draft because he left early.

coaches try to be honest with NFL execs when asked questions about players. If they aren't, then those execs lose trust in head coaches and it ultimately hurts players in the future.

Even if Miles was the "leak," Collins needs to look in the mirror. Les Miles didn't fail drug tests, he did.

Collins ended up being suspended 4 times in the NFL for testing positive for PEDs and/or weed, so the red flags about him were warranted. Dude ruined his own career by not following the rules.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28272 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:45 am to
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Yeah I hate coaches who sustain success of the previous coach, win a national title, then pass off the team to the next coach with enough talent that they win a national title too


Miles's tenure was frustrating because he flat out refused to change his offensive approach which was holding back an otherwise supremely talented program from consistently being a championship program. But to say he was the "worst thing to happen to LSU football" is beyond stupid. He has the highest winning % in the modern era of LSU football. In 11 full seasons he never won fewer than 8 games. Before this season many LSU fans would have been thrilled with 8 wins.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:46 am to
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Mett basically regressed under Miles a


Wut the frick? He threw for over 3000 yard sin 2013.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54546 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:49 am to
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Les Miles was one of the worst things to ever happen to LSU football.
what? ??
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:50 am to
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Miles ever did a 15-0 run?

Did Miles ever have back to back .500 seasons? Or even one of them? Miles' worst season was 8-5, and excluding the season where he was fired after 6 games, he averaged over 10 wins a season over 11 seasons. Could he have been better, absolutely, but his bad was never as bad as Orgeron's bad, not even close. It was very rare that Miles teams weren't even competitive in games. I can only think of a handful: Florida 2008, Ole Miss 2008, Alabama BCSCG 2011, Auburn 2014, Arkansas 2014, and Ole Miss 2015. Orgeron had almost as many non-competitive games in 2020-2021 alone: Auburn 2020, A&M 2020, Alabama 2020, Kentucky 2021, Ole Miss 2021.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 10:57 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:52 am to
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Yes they both went the SEC championship game year 1 but let’s don’t act like miles had to build anything at LSU. If Kelly had the 05 talent and depth this year then they’d be #1 or #2 in the country and a shoe in for the playoffs


Miles also had to deal with 2 hurricanes and playing an entire season with no bye weeks.
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Miles might’ve won 5 games with this ‘22 team.

The present day version of Miles, sure. The 2005 version of Miles, disagree
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:56 am to
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LSU led the nation by a wide margin in early defectors during Miles' tenure. If true, I'm not surprised he resorted to sheisty tactics.


That was Miles' biggest recruiting pitch. He encouraged guys to give him three years and he'd get them drafted. He's not going to turn his biggest selling point recruiting into blackballing players for leaving on the back end. That's silly to even think.
Posted by Gings5
HTX
Member since Jul 2016
7964 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:58 am to
Maybe don’t do drugs. Problem solved.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 11:00 am
Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
1406 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 11:13 am to
Always somebody else's fault. Dude wasn't all that at LSU either and that probably had more to do with it.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29286 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 11:14 am to
Threw the most picks of his career and probably took the most sacks as well.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84065 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 11:15 am to
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Threw the most picks of his career and probably took the most sacks as well.


Nice goal post move.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 11:16 am to
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He did less with more.
'05 had some good signees, but 13 still was 1/2 a class to replace.
Ignoring your constant conjecture, Miles actually won more consistently at LSU with predecessor's and own recruits.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22401 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 11:19 am to
That podcast is cancer
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 11:25 am to
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Threw the most picks of his career and probably took the most sacks as well.

by one

He also had more yards, touchdowns, completion percentage yards per attempt, and his QB rating dwarfed his 2012 season. To insinuate Mett regressed from 2012 to 2013 is laughably stupid.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17025 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:21 pm to
i thought collins play hurt his draft stock

never thought of him him being drafted high

in fact was surprised he was taken where he was
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:44 pm to
If he ACTUALLY failed drug tests, I have no issues with this.

If they were just rumors, then Miles is a TPOS for this.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58559 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:50 pm to
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Threw the most picks of his career and probably took the most sacks as well.


Joe Burrow had the most picks of his career in 2019 (i.e., more than he had in 2018). He regressed from 2018 to 2019.

You are a stupid person.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
3131 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:57 pm to
Very true, Atlanta gave this dude every chance to get himself together and never could.
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