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re: For those who played football at a high level, question
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:08 pm to mhc4tigers
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:08 pm to mhc4tigers
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They are probably drinkng beer
Creatine is notorious for fluid depletion.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:21 pm to cra_cra
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Clear pee is not good.
This is for the most part blatantly false. Except for certain metabolic derangements that are beyond the scope of this discussion, "clear" pee is almost always indicative of a better hydration status.
Hydration is only one component of maintaining performance, but to portray this as the sole component is at best a vast over simplification. The more important component is the anaerobic threshold of the athlete. Again this is a very simplistic explanation, but the longer an athlete can function on the aerobic part of the exercise curve, the longer the muscles are able to give peak performance. When anaerobic metabolism begins to exceed aerobic metabolism, there is performance loss, fatigue, pain, cramping, etc. presumably from build up of lactic acid. This threshold can be affected to a degree by conditioning, but some athletes are blessed with a higher capacity than others. So in essence, there are limits regardless of conditioning.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:25 pm to Terrific Tales
We were always taught to hydrate the couple of days leading up to the game cause come Gameday, you would have trouble. I never had a IV st halftime cause my veins were impossible to find especially if I was being exerted or playing. I lost up to 3 lbs during a game. It’s hell I n a 300 lb body playing in 95plus degree weather.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:28 pm to Terrific Tales
I never had an IV and can’t remember ever getting cramps. Back when I played it was eat a banana and drink lots of water before 30 minutes to kickoff so you wouldn’t feel bloated
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:29 pm to LSUNV
I used to get nasty cramps after playing 5 soccer games in one weekend in 100 degree weather. Never even got close to cramping in a football game. It’s all preparation, there’s no excuses and you should almost never need an IV.
I would say that I didn’t take hydration seriously either.
I would say that I didn’t take hydration seriously either.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:31 pm to LSUNV
Being bloated was a common problem for lineman in my day. We would take pepto or gas X to make us belch. Sone guys would throw up from drinking so much water.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:33 pm to Terrific Tales
Sure some players cramped it happens to almost every team in September and during bowl games. I never saw Stingley suffer cramps though. Of course all players are different. PP7 always had cramping issues. I don’t think this is a moffit issue. If you remember back to games with teams that run up tempo we tend to have more “cramping” issues than against teams who don’t run up tempo.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:34 pm to ScaryClown
I kinda agree with you about the IV use but times have changed. How fast are the pushing this thru a kids bloodstream is kinda scary if you ask me. Bringing your body temp down should help some.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:35 pm to Terrific Tales
Need to rip open a MyHy
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:37 pm to higgins
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An old school tried and true prophylaxis is pickle juice.
Pickle juice and salt tablets... Been there and done that a few times. Cramping hurts like hell.....
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:50 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:,...truth...when you are thirsty you are already dehydrated..drinking regular water will only dilute the salt you already have in your system and cramp even worse... Gatorade, Powerade, etc is a slight benefit to hydrating but not fast enough...especially in extreme heat... salt tablets was a big thing back in the day when I played football and you were taking them just about everyday for a week before a game...I’m sure there’s some other type of pill(s) they may use these days as witnessed during the Michigan-Army game when Shea Patterson caught a cramp and they gave him some type of pill to take...
so at half, if they don’t “feel” it, doesn’t mean they aren’t close to dehydration.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:55 pm to Terrific Tales
I think playing on that damn turf on a hot Texas evening is what did it. LSU isn’t use to playing on turf, because most SEC teams play on natural grass which is cooler than turf. Guys got overheated and started cramping. I honestly don’t know why they refused to take IV’s at halftime. It hydrates the body and prevents you from cramping.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:42 am to Terrific Tales
As others have mentioned, strictly drinking water is not good. Athletes, outdoor laborers, or the average Joe doing weekend yard work need to alternate drinking water and Gatorade or Powerade. Your body and blood cells need sodium to survive.
Good friend of mine died from drinking too much water during a 260 mile canoe race. He experienced seizures and went into a coma as COD was water intoxication, also known as hyponatremia.
Good friend of mine died from drinking too much water during a 260 mile canoe race. He experienced seizures and went into a coma as COD was water intoxication, also known as hyponatremia.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:10 am to Terrific Tales
Matt Flynn + MyHy about to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
IVs are really you're only "in the moment" fix. Like others have said: if you're cramping = the damage is already done. That + all the sugar in today's sports drinks are an absolute killer.
A tried + true prevent to dehydration/cramps is to go Desert Storm US Military with it: every water break you line yup the entire squad with a 12-16 oz. bottle/cup of WATER. Make them drink it all. Turn the bottle/cup over when done to prove you finished.
2 min. to absorb/rest/breathe.
Repeat.
In my last 2 college programs that I coached, I made my players set 5 alarms on their phones throughtout the day, beyween classes + outside of team activities. The alarm was for them to drink their water on the spot.
Other than players who were ill, we haven't had dehydration or cramping issues. We also played better later into games with starters + role guys. The guys actually said they felt better, on the whole, during the season & out of season after being out "doing what college guys do". Obviously it's because the water was flushing their systems at great rates.
IMO, with absolutely 0 medical education or training-but plenty of time spent with ATs + Team Drs, all these protein powders & supplements/shakes these kids are taking are doing far more harm than good.
IVs are really you're only "in the moment" fix. Like others have said: if you're cramping = the damage is already done. That + all the sugar in today's sports drinks are an absolute killer.
A tried + true prevent to dehydration/cramps is to go Desert Storm US Military with it: every water break you line yup the entire squad with a 12-16 oz. bottle/cup of WATER. Make them drink it all. Turn the bottle/cup over when done to prove you finished.
2 min. to absorb/rest/breathe.
Repeat.
In my last 2 college programs that I coached, I made my players set 5 alarms on their phones throughtout the day, beyween classes + outside of team activities. The alarm was for them to drink their water on the spot.
Other than players who were ill, we haven't had dehydration or cramping issues. We also played better later into games with starters + role guys. The guys actually said they felt better, on the whole, during the season & out of season after being out "doing what college guys do". Obviously it's because the water was flushing their systems at great rates.
IMO, with absolutely 0 medical education or training-but plenty of time spent with ATs + Team Drs, all these protein powders & supplements/shakes these kids are taking are doing far more harm than good.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:32 am to Got Blaze
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Gatorade or Powerade
Pedialyte is better.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 3:17 am to Terrific Tales
Once escorted and brought to the training room, the procedure can begin. An Intravenous rehydration approx. 30 minutes, then the player is advised to wait another 15-30 minutes.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 4:05 am to Terrific Tales
The only thing you will learn from this thread is that some posters know how to Google and then pretend they knew the answer all along. They didn't.
Heck, I played high school and college football in the 70's and we had cramping, but not to this extent, and we didn't have an IV at all. There was no push to hydrate.
Maybe athletes are leaner now and less fat causes the muscles to burn and cause cramps. The problem with that is our fattier guys were the players with the most cramps.
Just seems our defensive linemen need to drop 20 pounds of fat, gain 10 ten pounds of muscle, and hydrate.
Alabama's defensive linemen don't look like ours. They're big, lean,and it's hard to tell whether a defensive player pursuing the ball carrier is a defensive lineman or a linebacker. We clearly don't have that problem.
Heck, I played high school and college football in the 70's and we had cramping, but not to this extent, and we didn't have an IV at all. There was no push to hydrate.
Maybe athletes are leaner now and less fat causes the muscles to burn and cause cramps. The problem with that is our fattier guys were the players with the most cramps.
Just seems our defensive linemen need to drop 20 pounds of fat, gain 10 ten pounds of muscle, and hydrate.
Alabama's defensive linemen don't look like ours. They're big, lean,and it's hard to tell whether a defensive player pursuing the ball carrier is a defensive lineman or a linebacker. We clearly don't have that problem.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 4:07 am to Terrific Tales
They took the ivy at half. That was just a bullshite answer because they were faking cramps because they were tired
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:56 am to BillF
Half of the country still didn't have A/C cranking at 71° around the clock in homes, schools, & cars. The natural heat acclimation was much different than Americans today.
Also, the average diet had easily 40%+ LESS sugar + preservatives/chemicals than what the average American shovels down in 2019. Processed & packaged food of today would make people from the 70s sick of you time traveled them to now.
Also, the average diet had easily 40%+ LESS sugar + preservatives/chemicals than what the average American shovels down in 2019. Processed & packaged food of today would make people from the 70s sick of you time traveled them to now.
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