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For those who played football at a high level, question

Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:35 pm
I have no experience with this so I just legitimately don’t know.

How much of an effect could not taking IVs at half make? Is it just the cramping? Do they give you more energy? Help you not get tired so easily?

I just want to get a grasp of the scope of effect not talk g IVs at half could cause.

TIA
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21037 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

How much of an effect could not taking IVs at half make?


If you are dehydrated, then not taking one will cause you to become tired and cramped.

quote:

Is it just the cramping?


Starting to cramp is what will make being on the field very difficult.

quote:

Do they give you more energy?


They rehydrate you. Have you never gotten sick and got a fluid IV bag?



(I didn't play football at a high level, for the record. Not sure why that's a requirement to answer your questions though).
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:39 pm to
Actually no. I just usually drink so much water I never feel dehydrated playing. I’ve had one time where I got dizzy and had to come off the field and lay down, but I’ve never gotten an IV
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:40 pm to
Cramping comes from hyponatremia (low sodium in the bloodstream). Sodium plays a role in muscle function/contraction. By the time cramping sets in, it’s too late for oral replacement. Much of the problem is preventative. Has to be done in the hours leading up to the exercise. An old school tried and true prophylaxis is pickle juice. Replacing solely with water only exacerbates the low sodium by further diluting the already depleted sodium in the blood. You’re turning brackish water into fresh water. The IV’s with sodium should remedy the problem.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:40 pm to
I kind of assumed that quick fix IVs at half time would serve a different recovery purpose than IVs for sickness. Sorry if that was a poor assumption. :cheers;
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9189 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:41 pm to
We obviously did not hydrate correctly for 3 days before the game and something was missed during the pre-game prep.

If it was offered and the athletes turned it down they learned a lesson

Posted by crossfire
Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
2074 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:41 pm to
It is like getting hydrated at the cellular level extremely fast. It skips your gut, small and large intestine. Hydrating the body at a different level. Basically it is super hydration and if it's matched with the right minerals it can keep the players from cramping. If you want to be super human just push in more blood with the fluids ?? but that's what got cyclists busted.
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:42 pm to
Instant hydration but cramps can linger
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21037 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:45 pm to
quote:


I kind of assumed that quick fix IVs at half time would serve a different recovery purpose than IVs for sickness. Sorry if that was a poor assumption


I'm not a medical expert, and some IV bags may include medication in some IVs. I'm not sure.

I've gone to the doctor when I was throwing up before and they gave me an IV bag while I was there. That serves the same purpose.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9181 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

We obviously did not hydrate correctly for 3 days before the game and something was missed during the pre-game prep.

If it was offered and the athletes turned it down they learned a lesson


It takes longer than 3 days drinking normal fluids for the conditions they played in Saturday night with football gear, plus practice days. Look at the time/plays the D was on the field. shite, next time give them IV's on the flight to the game location.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7488 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:52 pm to
what most people don’t realize, is that by the time you actually feel the symptoms, it’s waaaaay too late. and really ONLY an IV will catch you up.

so at half, if they don’t “feel” it, doesn’t mean they aren’t close to dehydration.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7488 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

It takes longer than 3 days drinking normal fluids for the conditions they played in Saturday night with football gear, plus practice days. Look at the time/plays the D was on the field. shite, next time give them IV's on the flight to the game location.



conditions are not an excuse for a team like LSU.
it’s been hot as frick here too, so we should be as prepared for it as anyone else on the planet.
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:54 pm to
When I played believe it or not coaches had us drink pickle juice day before and morning of game. I didn’t play football though was basketball. Never cramped up to the point of having to leave game. Actually don’t recall seeing any other teammate cramping. .
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 5:01 pm
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:55 pm to
Have you ever been down on artificial turf. Freaking hot as all shite.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4332 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:57 pm to
They are probably drinkng beer
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

ramping comes from hyponatremia (low sodium in the bloodstream). Sodium plays a role in muscle function/contraction. By the time cramping sets in, it’s too late for oral replacement. Much of the problem is preventative. Has to be done in the hours leading up to the exercise. An old school tried and true prophylaxis is pickle juice. Replacing solely with water only exacerbates the low sodium by further diluting the already depleted sodium in the blood. You’re turning brackish water into fresh water. The IV’s with sodium should remedy the problem.


Thank you! This is not just about drinking water. In fact just drinking water can cause you to cramp faster. Thus it’s not just about “hydrating”. Powerade should just be called sugar and is not what athletes should be drinking. It makes cramping worse because it’s not doing anything close to what it should be doing.

Clear pee is not good. It means that you’ve drank so much water that you’ve pissed out all the nutrients and minerals.

They should be drinking a very specific mix. Powerade is absolute trash.
Posted by TigersJump
In a land far far away
Member since Feb 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:02 pm to
Old school pickle juice or salt tablets. No way you can stay hydrated enough in those conditions drinking water. ZERO alcohol in the week leading up to a game in those conditions. If you’re not super hydrated with sodium and minerals in your system you’re already in a bind. If you’ve had any alcohol during the week, you’re asking for a shite ton of problems. Pickle juice, salt tablets and an IV are your only choices if you haven’t done all you can during the week to stay hydrated.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
2937 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:04 pm to
Orgeron needs to post a piss chart just like Herman did in his locker room. We had wayyyy to many players cramping up.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7488 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Have you ever been down on artificial turf. Freaking hot as all shite.


yeah, but not as a player.
or at least not this type of turf. I played on the old green carpet at the dome once.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:05 pm to
Yeah. The “zero” versions of sports drinks are better. You’re getting the necessary electrolyte replenishment and avoiding the unnecessary sugar.
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