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re: For those who Follow the MLB, is Skenes a Top 5 pitcher in the league already?

Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16394 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:34 pm to
There's 10 pitchers with a sub 2.37 ERA currently.

20 sub 3.00.

By the end of the season, those numbers will be reduced to almost half.

So a lot of phenomenal pitchers.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30090 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:42 pm to
Zach Wheeler
Aaron Nola
Ranger Suarez
All have been significantly better than Skenes and that's just on one team.


Fried and Sale have been better and that's just five total in his own league.
Posted by Portcityblues
Member since Jan 2017
822 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:54 pm to
I mean he has started 5 games. He is Obviously a first ballot HOF guy if he stopped right now. come on. Do we have to try and rate the kid after every game he pitches. let's enjoy watching him and give him a few years and then see where he is compared to others.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61211 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Zach Wheeler
Aaron Nola
Ranger Suarez
All have been significantly better than Skenes and that's just on one team.


Fried and Sale have been better and that's just five total in his own league.


OP admitted he doesn't really follow MLB. Nobody seriously thinks Skenes is currently a top 5 pitcher in the big leagues after 5 starts.
Posted by KCSunshine
Lafayette LA
Member since Dec 2019
676 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:59 pm to
I bet he added to all star roster
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47287 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 4:46 pm to
No but he’s heading in that direction. I think he will be there in a couple of years.
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
1139 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 5:49 pm to
Too bad he'll leave the pirates in good time. MLB is a joke. Major changes needed. Some Teams gross revenue are LESS than other teams payroll!
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6972 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:19 pm to
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He might be a legitimate ROTY candidate if he keeps this up.


He’s already second best odds to win it.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
863 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:45 am to
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No, but the potential is obviously there and it may not take him long to reach it. He might be a legitimate ROTY candidate if he keeps this up.


My mlb app pushed a notification today ranking staring pitchers and had Skenes listed as #8 overall. Should he’s prob close or there already.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
863 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:47 am to
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no but he would be with a top 5 Pitchers strike zone. he just won’t get that for a couple of years and possible a big market move


Wrong! He’s there already. He could lay a few eggs and recalibrate expectations but he’s there right now if he continues what he’s done to date.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
863 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:52 am to
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He’s second best on the pirates right now.


He’s the best pitcher on the Pirates. Jones also having crazy good rookie season to date. Keller has trended better but still isn’t their ace. If pirates play playoff game tomorrow it’s Skenes or Keller and probably Skenes.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
863 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:55 am to
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26). Once he's allowed to go longer in games and eat innings, he'll shoot up the rankings quickly.


He’s Striking out too many batters and throwing too many pitchers per inning. Pirates certainly protecting their investment, but his innings pitched are associated with his higher number of pitches thrown per batter than pirates handling.hes throwing around 100 pitches per start.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
863 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:57 am to
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Top 5 pitcher in the MLB means you're a Cy Young type arm that season. He's not there yet.


He is there, but would need to be better not worse going forward. It’s possible.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
863 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:01 am to
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Game has certainly changed, pitchers aren't asked to throw 120+ pitches and go 9 innings anymore. A pitcher who can get into the 7th with around 100 pitchers and a sub 3.00 ERA is an ace. Now spin rates are all the rage, along with the data that is tracked. However, saying Skenes is a top 5 already is just LSU fans being biased. He is having a great start to his pro league, yet you have other rookie pitchers who are performing as well. Not to mention the tons of other young ppl there and former unknowns who are currently dominating. Can Skenes be considered a top 5? Well yeah if he pitches like this all year but after 5 starts it's all just premature.


Wrong. He was listed as #8 starting pitcher today by mlb. Everything subjective but he’s certainly in contention for top 10 spot today.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
863 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:03 am to
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OP admitted he doesn't really follow MLB. Nobody seriously thinks Skenes is currently a top 5 pitcher in the big leagues after 5 starts.


Wrong. MLB ranked him #8 today. Who would you want over Skenes considering contract control? Wake up. He’s legit right now.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
863 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:04 am to
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No but he’s heading in that direction. I think he will be there in a couple of years.


He’s there right now.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2080 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 2:22 am to
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JR Hamilsbach
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1373 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 6:17 am to
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I mean he has started 5 games. He is Obviously a first ballot HOF guy if he stopped right now. come on. Do we have to try and rate the kid after every game he pitches. let's enjoy watching him and give him a few years and then see where he is compared to others.



He was just asking a question. I don’t follow baseball either and many of the answers gave us non baseball guys great perspective on Skenes and pitching in the major leagues.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47287 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 6:49 am to
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is Skenes a Top 5 pitcher in the league already?


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He was listed as #8 starting pitcher today


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Wrong.


So he’s not top 5 yet? Got it.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
23371 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 2:25 pm to
There’s quite a few of us that don’t follow it as close as others but still know a lot! Why don’t you ask us also?
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