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re: For those of you who think we "know" what Harris is
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:00 am to DTRooster
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:00 am to DTRooster
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Harris is a kid with potential that's not being given much of a chance to realize it. You could go so far as to say being ruined by inept coaching
Where are you seeing potential?
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:00 am to ShortyRob
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But, let's not pretend that there is any reasonable expectation that the next guy is going to break the pattern and moreover
I don't have that expectation. But I think that Miles gets grilled for making no changes or adjustments, you would think him trying another QB would make people happy that he is trying something different.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:00 am to ScoopAndScore
quote:Of course. Which is why one bust wouldn't even really register.
recruiting rankings, especially with QBs is a crapshoot a lot of times.
5 straight?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:02 am to RB10
Look for them yourself, bitch.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:02 am to ShortyRob
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My point is, we don't even REALLY know what we have in Harris.
It's IMPOSSIBLE to know. He may really be a complete bust but, given the statistical improbability that we've had 5 straight busts...........
I agree. I can link you dozens of threads, just from today, that say Miles and Cam should be fired.
The fan base, as a whole, is well-aware that the problems do not fall squarely on Harris' shoulders.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:03 am to BeeFense5
quote:Oh, you won't see me knock Miles for trying the other guy. I'm pretty consistent on that.
I don't have that expectation. But I think that Miles gets grilled for making no changes or adjustments, you would think him trying another QB would make people happy that he is trying something
This is more about the people giving up on Harris like this is the first time we've been down this road.
But, I'm pretty well on record that if you're a coach, you have to at least give another guy a shot. That's a different discussion.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:04 am to ShortyRob
Definitely coaching, and lack of offensive creativity and engineering is culpable for sure. Most Tiger fans and talking heads wonder if it is just a lack of trust in b.h....idk....
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:04 am to PortCityTiger24
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Look for them yourself, bitch.
So, you don't actually have a link to any of these threads you claim are so abundant.
Thanks for the invaluable input.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:05 am to ShortyRob
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5 straight
I'm not sure what you're definition of bust is. I would not call JL or JJ a bust. Harris and Jennings appear to be busts based on their recruiting profiles.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:06 am to ShortyRob
Harris also has been working with Whitfield. You would think you would see some improvement with mechanics.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:06 am to ShortyRob
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It's IMPOSSIBLE to know. He may really be a complete bust but, given the statistical improbability that we've had 5 straight busts...........
I was talking to a guy in the gym last night who was convinced Miles wasn't the problem. He said the problem is the quarterback. I told him, "When was it ever NOT the quarterback?" It's crazy how some people don't see it. Either we have the worst luck in evaluating high school talent, or we just completely suck at developing that talent to play qb. Logic seems to dictate the latter is far more likely.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:07 am to lsupride87
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Exactly. And other programs with solid coaches are never missing. It is ridiculous to think our passing game is because of the QB
I can get on board with this
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:08 am to ShortyRob
So judging by this logic, we should give etling a try since the only qbs who have had success at LSU were players who started their collegiate career at other schools or other programs. Russell, Flynn, Mettenberger.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:09 am to ShlikStyck
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I know what the OP is saying, but his personal mechanics last week were some of the worst I've ever seen from any QB at any level. And I know he's been coached by more than this staff. So what's that all about??
So he's regressing?
This staff does him absolutely no favors. This idea that he is just asked to be a game manager is wrong. He is asked to throw the ball 20ish times a game, sure, but those 20 throws are in some of the most difficult situations of the game. 1 and 2 WR routes. Intermediate routes to the sidelines that are easily defended. Very few are over the top. Even fewer are over the middle.
That quick bubble screen (for lack of a better term) for the TD needs to happen more. When we hurried up there I thought 100% it would be a toss-dive because it often is. Nope, instead we run a quick pass where our athletes on the edge only have to beat 1 guy for the TD, and he did. We need much, much more of that.
Anthony Jennings was a sub 50% passer in his career at LSU. In his first game at ULL he completed 63% of his passes, a career high. Even if you take the opinion that the QBs are to blame, you can still be much more serviceable than they are if you're put in a position to succeed.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:09 am to RB10
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So, you don't actually have a link to any of these threads you claim are so abundant. Thanks for the invaluable input.
Dude, there's a thread on THIS board right now saying we KNOW Harris can't improve.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:10 am to ShortyRob
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"know" what Harris is
I'll give you that Shorty BUT, if the kid can't play within the confines of the scheme to which the HC and OC want to run then it's up to the kid to adjust OR, you find a kid that can run said scheme or the coaching staff must adjust the scheme to fit the kid. I don't see the coaching staff doing that and I haven't seen Harris have a clear enough head to adapt.
Blame is placed on both. Time to cut your losses and make a change.
ON BOTH FRONTS.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:10 am to No Diggity Tiger
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So judging by this logic, we should give etling a try since the only qbs who have had success at LSU were players who started their collegiate career at other schools or other programs. Russell, Flynn, Mettenberger.
LOL - Perhaps that's the ticket!!!
I mean hell. Why not.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:13 am to ShortyRob
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Dude, there's a thread on THIS board right now saying we KNOW Harris can't improve
It's the truth, under the current staff. Again, that's not implying this is entirely his fault.
You do understand that when someone criticizes Harris it does not mean they are vindicating the staff, correct? The two go hand in hand, at this point.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:15 am to ShortyRob
Is Jarret Lee selling life insurance yet, or teaching high school math somewhere?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:17 am to FATBOY TIGER
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I'll give you that Shorty BUT, if the kid can't play within the confines of the scheme to which the HC and OC want to run then it's up to the kid to adjust OR, you find a kid that can run said scheme
There isn't a QB on our roster that can run this scheme. There might only be one or two in the country that can. This scheme asks far too much out of a college QB.
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