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re: For those BCS lovers who think...
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
btw making a playoff won't end the controversy if there is a +1 system there will be that team who is ranked 5 who says we could have won it.
or in a 8 team system there is that #9 team who says we could have won it.
or in a 8 team system there is that #9 team who says we could have won it.
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Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:28 am to catholictigerfan
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if we go to a playoff we would only have a +1 system, at-least that's what i've heard and if it where to start today it would be one seed Oregon vs 4 seed Boise and 2 seed auburn vs 3 seed TCU
that's not a plus one. that's a 4-team playoff
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:29 am to catholictigerfan
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btw making a playoff won't end the controversy if there is a +1 system there will be that team who is ranked 5 who says we could have won it.
in my article about playoffs in CFB i call this concent the myth of the "next team"
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:42 am to catholictigerfan
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one more thing noone ever talks about is education, isn't that what college is all about anyway. Plus we couldn't start the playoffs in 4 weeks that's week after exam week. Players can't practice during exam week that's why the SEC championship is on the 5th the day before exam start so they can have a week off for exams then start to prepare for their bowl game. Many people who are calling for playoffs forget that these are student Athletes. Education must be taken into account when determining if there is a playoff
You do realize that all levels other than FBS have playoffs? FBS students get much better tutoring than all the other levels of cfb that have playoffs. If the "student/athlete" was such a concern for the NCAA they wouldn't have added on extra games since the 70's when the season was 10 games....now most teams play 13 some 14.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
Am I missing something? Who cares if a team "says that they could have won it?" That is just foolish; they had an opportunity by gaining entrance into the playoff bracket. As it is now, teams like Boise and TCU have to have two years of outstanding performance to just have a potential shot.
It allows the Non AQs to run with the big dogs, and if they are defeated it shuts up the critics! Out of 89 NCAA sports, 88 have a playoff system to crown a champion, and only football does not. Conference commissioners and bowl owners are the ones who don't want a playoff system! If it weren't for money, they would have implemented a playoff years ago.
It allows the Non AQs to run with the big dogs, and if they are defeated it shuts up the critics! Out of 89 NCAA sports, 88 have a playoff system to crown a champion, and only football does not. Conference commissioners and bowl owners are the ones who don't want a playoff system! If it weren't for money, they would have implemented a playoff years ago.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:44 am to OBUDan
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THere's really no way to argue that a playoff makes the regular season better, it definitely doesn't.
If there is no way to argue that the regular season would be better how could anyone argue that the regular season would be worse? No one knows do they?
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:47 am to Topwater Trout
Oh.. And with the BCS, the NCAA doesn't even officially recognize a champion. That is just preposterous
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:52 am to SaltyTiger53
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Out of 89 NCAA sports, 88 have a playoff system to crown a champion
Good work Salty!
Someone stated how cbb started last night and there was no national title implications b/c there is a playoff system. Yet when it comes tourney time all the factors are taken into account by selectionb committee of who each team beat, played, etc. Conference championships seem to be as important in cbb than in cfb. I have never seen teams laying down in cbb because they have secured a top seed. It would be same in cfb...playing for seeds in playoffs is a high motivation.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:57 am to SaltyTiger53
Logic, there's no logis to not having a play off system, other than greed, from the bowl reps, coaches, AD's and who ever else has a hand in the pie. Read this week's Sports Illustrated, they have an article that sums everything up in regard to a play off.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:10 am to Topwater Trout
College basketball's regular season isn't as exciting due to the number of games. Football's regular season would not suffer because each week there is one game. Who thinks less people would buy tickets to the LSU bama/ ole miss/ Fla/ Auburn games if we implemented a playoff system?
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:24 am to SaltyTiger53
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College basketball's regular season isn't as exciting due to the number of games. Football's regular season would not suffer because each week there is one game. Who thinks less people would buy tickets to the LSU bama/ ole miss/ Fla/ Auburn games if we implemented a playoff system?
But i am not as big a cbb fan as cfb but I don't hear anyone complaining that cbb teams don't play for conference championships etc (the arguement they use against cfb going to playoffs)
How great would it be to see a quarterfinal/semifinal game in tiger stadium? I don't think that the regular season games against bama, auburn, florida would be anywhere near the excitement that a win to advance game would be in december. If (and to me it is a huge if) the regular season is depleted by a playoff the actual playoff games would more than make up for it.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:39 am to purpleturtle50
quote:Simply false.
Logic, there's no logis to not having a play off system
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:43 am to AlxTgr
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Logic, there's no logis to not having a play off system
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AlxTgr
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Simply false.
why not explain why with logic?
Posted on 11/17/10 at 10:02 am to SaltyTiger53
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Who cares if a team "says that they could have won it?"
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It allows the Non AQs to run with the big dogs
i'll ask you, who cares if non-AQ "say they could have won it?"
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Out of 89 NCAA sports, 88 have a playoff system to crown a champion, and only football does not.
and out of 89 NCAA sports, and all the individual teams from select schools, almost all lose money except football
football is, obviously, different
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If it weren't for money, they would have implemented a playoff years ago.
playoffs = more money to be split
but the logistics of that split are all but impossible, due to the nature of CFB itself (tiered structure on the field and economically, conference affiliation, etc)
Posted on 11/17/10 at 10:03 am to Topwater Trout
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I have never seen teams laying down in cbb because they have secured a top seed.
teams do this in conference tournies all the time
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playing for seeds in playoffs is a high motivation.
to get what? home field advantage?
THAT is a can of worms
Posted on 11/17/10 at 10:04 am to Topwater Trout
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why not explain why with logic?
well to logically debate this issue, i'd like the playoff proponents to finally agree on 1 playoff system
how many teams get in
where they play
how they're selected
how the tv revenue is split (teams, conferences, etc)
when this happens, then the merits can be debated
so...GO!
Posted on 11/17/10 at 10:06 am to Mr. Allman
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this is what makes me nervous about a playoff system. It would de-value the regular season,
Not so much.
Here we are 2 games away from the end of the regular season. LSU, at 9-1, is sitting in 5th place. If we lose either of our last 2 games we likely fall out of the top 8 spots. So an 8 team playoff keeps it real right up to the end for us, for the other 1 loss teams, and probably for the 2 pretenders from the non-AQ schools.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 10:09 am to nycajun
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If we lose either of our last 2 games we likely fall out of the top 8 spots
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So an 8 team playoff keeps it real right up to the end for us
yeah our chances are real because the regular season is de-valued, and 2-losses can get you a shot in a season with multiple undefeated BCS teams. that is a de-valuation of your regular season and the importance of each game mattering
Posted on 11/17/10 at 10:10 am to Topwater Trout
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But i am not as big a cbb fan as cfb but I don't hear anyone complaining that cbb teams don't play for conference championships etc (the arguement they use against cfb going to playoffs)
How great would it be to see a quarterfinal/semifinal game in tiger stadium? I don't think that the regular season games against bama, auburn, florida would be anywhere near the excitement that a win to advance game would be in december.
To me this is like calling the Pope a Muslim
If LSU/Bama or whoever isn't a 10 out of 10 to you then I just don't know what to say to you
We probably disagree so completely it may not be worth a debate. Anyone who doesn't see that bigger playoffs devalue the regular seasons hasn't been watching the American sports culture over the last few decades
And IMO college basketball is a great example of this... fan interest (TV ratings for example) has fallen way off over the last decade or so because pretty much anything with a pulse makes the March Madness field... and because all of the attention is really focused on that few weeks most people have decided there's no overwhelming reason to watch the rest of the games (and they don't)
Posted on 11/17/10 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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well to logically debate this issue, i'd like the playoff proponents to finally agree on 1 playoff system
Look up Slackster's playoff proposal thread he created yesterday. It's pretty legit, and I think a majority of people would agree with it.
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