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re: For the people who think orgeron is a savior. Why?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:57 am to lsu2006
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:57 am to lsu2006
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My point is that going out and getting an already-developed transfer from another school isn't something that instills longterm confidence in O as the "savior" of the program. Again, a very nice stop-gap potentially. But he has to show that he and his staff can go out and recruit a QB and develop him into a competent D1 player. That obviously remains to be seen.
Why? With the increase in transfers these days, especially at QB, why isn't this an option more often now?
Burrow is no more of a "temp fix" than was Flynn, Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck. Brennan, should he remain here his career and only start his last two years would fit this as well.
The idea of having a QB come in and play significantly for 3-4 years is just not a common reality and definitely not a necessity to success.
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Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:59 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Why? With the increase in transfers these days, especially at QB, why isn't this an option more often now?
More often, sure. But a program can't rely on transfer QBs alone. I can't believe I'm having to argue this right now.
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Burrow is no more of a "temp fix" than was Flynn, Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck. Brennan, should he remain here his career and only start his last two years would fit this as well.
How are you not understanding my argument? If you want to argue that it's not important that a program has the ability to recruit HS QBs and develop them into competent college QBs we can just stop this conversation right now.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:00 am to S
No one thinks that. Most of us are taking wait and see approach. This is just a narrative fabricated by the negatiger group of 10-12 posters
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:01 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Yeah but O actually showed results with this issue.
What do you mean?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:07 am to Greace
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How often are highly coveted Qbs available?
Over the past seven years, nine of the 247Sports Composite’s 15 five-star quarterbacks transferred
Literally all the time.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
At what point in their career did they transfer? Because if its before an actual QB coach has had them for 2+ years we are in trouble because we still cant develop one.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:08 am to Billder
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Worthless thread after worthless thread. This season needs to start quickly.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:09 am to memphis tiger
Were you the guy that had the inside scoop , that said you worked in the athletic dept?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:10 am to thanksjhester
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Were you the guy that had the inside scoop , that said you worked in the athletic dept
No
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:12 am to tigersquad89
I literally almost got in trouble at work for busting out laughing when I read orgeron and savior in the same sentence.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:12 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Mickey Goldmill
It's OK to be blindly optimistic. It's a symptom of being a fan. But you're dropping some really stupid opinions in here.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:13 am to tigersquad89
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Clearly a lot of people think orgeron can bring LSU to a championship but Nobody can give a legit reason.
I think that our state produces the best talent in the country. With our level of talent, there is always a chance.
I don’t think we will win because of O, notwithstanding his ability to bring in said talent.
I think most practical people just realize he is here, won’t be long term, and don’t feel the need to be obnoxiously outspoken that he isn’t the most qualified coach we could have hired, particularly because he was hired nearly 2 years ago.
Lastly, I have been in Tiger Stadium on nights where I think the energy of the crowd contributed to a win, and would rather keep that positive energy than to be pessimistic. It’s the only thing I can do as a fan.
Negativity is toxic and I don’t see much point in being so invested in a team with the level of negativity I see on the board and hear from people who pay to go see games.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:20 am to lsu2006
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How are you not understanding my argument? If you want to argue that it's not important that a program has the ability to recruit HS QBs and develop them into competent college QBs we can just stop this conversation right now.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying I'm not going to diminish the impact of bringing in Joe Burrow or even Danny Etling simply because they were transfers.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:21 am to lsu2006
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t's OK to be blindly optimistic. It's a symptom of being a fan. But you're dropping some really stupid opinions in here.
I think you may be taking more out of my posts than what is really there. 
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:23 am to Mickey Goldmill
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I'm saying I'm not going to diminish the impact of bringing in Joe Burrow or even Danny Etling simply because they were transfers.
Point to where I diminished Burrow's potential impact, please. This thread is about what Orgeron has done to give people long-term confidence that he is the guy for the program, right? Or is "savior" something else? My only point is and always has been that relying on already-developed transfer QBs from other P5 schools to be the QB every year isn't a viable plan and O will have to exhibit that he and his staff can scout and recruit HS QBs and develop them into competent college ones.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:23 am to NotLSUSports
Obviously you are a very important and successful person lmao
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:27 am to lsu2006
I think they are bringing along Brennan right, maybe he is the start of lsu developing QBs. It is a blessing he can sit back and learn.
Question...I think they should do all they can to redshirt him. With that in mind....if lsu is up on rice 60-0....does the walkon come in? Brennan can play 4 games....don't waste one there, jmo
Question...I think they should do all they can to redshirt him. With that in mind....if lsu is up on rice 60-0....does the walkon come in? Brennan can play 4 games....don't waste one there, jmo
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:29 am to lsu2006
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My only point is and always has been that relying on already-developed transfer QBs from other P5 schools to be the QB every year isn't a viable plan and O will have to exhibit that he and his staff can scout and recruit HS QBs and develop them into competent college ones.
I can agree with that. I don’t want transfers every single year. There’s more safety and stability with recruiting and development. All I’m saying is the transfers are there and I’m fine getting them fairly often also.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:29 am to OceanMan
Very well said and very true.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:39 am to tigersquad89
Because he saved USC, no that's not it. Because he saved Ole Miss, no that's not it either.
Probably because he crushed cans on his head and rips off his shirt while telling the fans that "we comin".
Probably because he crushed cans on his head and rips off his shirt while telling the fans that "we comin".
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