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re: For the people who think orgeron is a savior. Why?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:25 am to Greace
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:25 am to Greace
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Why would you downplay a huge win against Auburn by acting like it was some stroke of luck or like we got totally bailed out?
Because that's kind of what actually happened.
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Not really. I dislike Ed as HC as much as anyone, but we did not get lucky to beat AU.
After they first quarter when they jumped to a 20-0 lead, LSU DOMINATED the game. Look at the stats second qtr on...total and complete domination by LSU.
Sadly, that one win is all O can hang his hat on, he has nothing else.
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Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:25 am to Mickey Goldmill
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This is what I'm talking about. You downplay or marginalize any achievement to fit your narrative. I don't care if the score is 3-2, I'm happy walking out of Gainesville with a win.
They had a losing record. And we won by 1 point when they missed a field goal. We’ve walked out of gainvilles with a win 3/4 times we’ve played there. You’re pumping a lucky win into some kind of big turn around.
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Why would you downplay a huge win against Auburn by acting like it was some stroke of luck or like we got totally bailed out?
Because we’re talking about the coaching and not the players, and I think We were winning games despite the coach, and your saying the coaches did a good job turning things around.
Like do you think the OC is a brilliant play caller when LF7 would take a Dive 70 yards?
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:26 am to tigersquad89
he's not the hero we deserve
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:26 am to tigersquad89
because Dabo was a position coach and see Clemson now and he talks like us as well
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:27 am to azcatiger
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Op idiot. I have never seen anyone in this board say anything that would resemble O being a savior. I have, however, seen people that are rational and realize that he is our HC this year sit back and hope for the best. I have also seen miserable POS negative people like OP that do nothing but constantly bash when we have not played a game yet. So OP get back to your moms basement and STFU and give it a rest for at least a couple weeks because then you may have something to bitch about. Have some patience and F Off for now.
And we just found somebody who thinks orgeron is taking this team to a championship.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:30 am to Greace
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Because that's kind of what actually happened.
Is it lucky to shut out a team in the 2nd half?
Is it lucky to outgain them for the game?
Is it lucky to hold them to 64 total yards in the 2nd half?
We dominated the second half of that game.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:30 am to Abe1961
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Miles wanted to keep chavis. Dumbass
The only way O could "address" Chavis is by hiring his replacement. Which he didn't.
Either edit your post or quit crawfishing. You make no sense.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:30 am to Mickey Goldmill
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We went 6-2 in the SEC last year.
Yes we did. 4 of those 6 teams we defeated fired their head coach. 1 of those 6 was Ole Miss.
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It wasn't a crash and burn like so many are expecting.
Hooray
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I've seen many things that he has done with this program in a short time that makes me optimistic.
Like what? I'm genuinely curious. Getting Burrow is seemingly a very nice stop-gap, but getting elite transfers from other P5 teams every couple years isn't a viable long-term plan. Cregg seems like a good hire. Glad we threw head coach money at Aranda and kept him. Glad we've hired some analysts I guess - but that doesn't really matter unless they're good at their jobs.
What do you have?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:32 am to Mickey Goldmill
“We responded”
Which Way is there to go but up when you lose to a SBC team on homecoming night in Tiger Stadium? Was it good that we didn’t fall off a cliff and lose every game the rest of the season? Of course, but this was a talented LSU football team no matter what some people try to imply. I don’t find it surprising that we won nine games last season.
As far as Bama is concerned, I didn’t get a lot of comfort out of the fact that we lost by 14 points and they were kneeling on the ball at the end of the game. Seems that I recall a whole lot of grief being given out to LSU football when we lost a lead to Bama In the last minute of a football game, but now we’re pumped over an effort that saw us never even threaten them with taking the lead?
Hopefully, Joe will turn out to be as good as the rant expects him to be.
Which Way is there to go but up when you lose to a SBC team on homecoming night in Tiger Stadium? Was it good that we didn’t fall off a cliff and lose every game the rest of the season? Of course, but this was a talented LSU football team no matter what some people try to imply. I don’t find it surprising that we won nine games last season.
As far as Bama is concerned, I didn’t get a lot of comfort out of the fact that we lost by 14 points and they were kneeling on the ball at the end of the game. Seems that I recall a whole lot of grief being given out to LSU football when we lost a lead to Bama In the last minute of a football game, but now we’re pumped over an effort that saw us never even threaten them with taking the lead?
Hopefully, Joe will turn out to be as good as the rant expects him to be.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:32 am to THECEO
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He is not a traditional type of x's and o's HC.
True
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However, if he surrounds himself and maintains strong x's and o's,
Doenst help when he fires a very successful OC and hires a guy who failed 20 years ago and no one else wanted.
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he is capable of the remainder of the HC tasks, which are:
- Overseeing game planning
Not so sure about that
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-Program management
Again, he has not really demonstrated the ability to do this either
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-Public Communication
Holy shite!!! He is a disaster at PR
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Sideline situational/game flow management and time management
OK, he hasn't had the frickups that Les had, but this harldy makes him a good HC
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Recruiting (of players and coaches)
I think he's overrated. This last recruiting class was not up to par. And his one big coaching recruit crashed and burned. He did not bring Aranda in remember.
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- Inspiration/Motivation of players
Not a bad quality at all, and it has served him well as an interim coach. But again, does not make him HC material
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:33 am to Greace
Rebuild both lines which were in awful shape.
Keep Aranda
WR recruiting
LB/DL recruiting
QB recruiting (including Burrow)
Special teams focus this offseason
Moving to a more modern spread type offense
Bouncing back after tough losses (a big Miles issue)
Cregg/Busch hires (aranda shares credit here)
Analysts
Keep Aranda
WR recruiting
LB/DL recruiting
QB recruiting (including Burrow)
Special teams focus this offseason
Moving to a more modern spread type offense
Bouncing back after tough losses (a big Miles issue)
Cregg/Busch hires (aranda shares credit here)
Analysts
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 10:38 am
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:35 am to SammyTiger
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Because we’re talking about the coaching and not the players, and I think We were winning games despite the coach, and your saying the coaches did a good job turning things around. Like do you think the OC is a brilliant play caller when LF7 would take a Dive 70 yards?
I never said it was one or the other, coaches vs players. I'm not going to be a hypocrite and only fault the coaching staff when things go bad yet only praise the players when things go well.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:36 am to tigersquad89
Nope. Not even sure we will mke a bowl game. But I am not going to constantly complain and bitch before the season. I will at least be positive before the season.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:38 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Rebuild both lines which were in awful shape.
Maybe. We've got some bodies, but they have to actually be good for this to matter, right?
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Keep Aranda
Awesome, indeed
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WR recruiting
Has never been an issue
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LB/DL recruiting
Les hired O and Aranda for just this. O has taken the torch and run with it.
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QB recruiting (including Burrow)
Getting Burrow is a nice temporary fix. Youre going to have to explain otherwise
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Moving to a more modern spread type offense
Maybe. We've heard like 10 different things about what our offense will be. Good thing we got a guy who hasn't implemented and run his own offense in 20 years and didn't want the job to modernize things.
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Bouncing back after tough losses (a big Miles issue)
He managed to avoid all-out collapse after a shite storm of his own creation. This isn't something that engenders confidence in me.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:39 am to Mickey Goldmill
Like I don’t think it’s O though.
Players made big plays in that game and that sealed it.
75 yard TD punt return from Chark
70 run by Gage
Set up 2/3 of our tds.
We were boom or bust on offense.
Players made big plays in that game and that sealed it.
75 yard TD punt return from Chark
70 run by Gage
Set up 2/3 of our tds.
We were boom or bust on offense.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:40 am to tigersquad89
No one is saying he’s a savior.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:40 am to Mickey Goldmill
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In 2017, Ed Orgeron's first full season as head coach, LSU complied a record of 9-4 overall and 6-2 in the SEC. I think that is a legit reason to believe in him.
That reason sure held up for Mike Archer. He went 10-1-1 his first year and LSU finished in the top 5.
At the time, Archer was in his early 30s and was a highly regarded, up and coming DC. He wasn't a career position coach who had been the worst coach in Ole Miss history.
At least both guys, Archer and O, were hired over clearly stronger candidates in order to at least maintain the success and consistency of the prior HC.
Looking at all of that there is no legitimate reason for people to assume Orgeron can bring LSU to a championship. Most likely, his best year, like Archer, will be his first year, the year when is team is most talented and most experienced and was developed largely by the prior coach.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:42 am to SammyTiger
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Like I don’t think it’s O though.
Players made big plays in that game and that sealed it.
75 yard TD punt return from Chark
70 run by Gage
Set up 2/3 of our tds.
We were boom or bust on offense.
Can't believe you are making me come in and defend that bufoon.
But you can't have it both ways. You cant say the players won then flip and say the coaches lost.
The AU game was a total team (players and coaches) effort. Coaches adjusted to what AU was doing, players made plays.
It was a great win, hard to shite on O for that. Especially when he has given plenty other reasons for us to do so.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:44 am to memphis tiger
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Can't believe you are making me come in and defend that bufoon.
But you can't have it both ways. You cant say the players won then flip and say the coaches lost.
The AU game was a total team (players and coaches) effort. Coaches adjusted to what AU was doing, players made plays.
It was a great win, hard to shite on O for that. Especially when he has given plenty other reasons for us to do so.
Yeah, trying to take away from the Auburn win is just silly. That was a very nice win and like you said, a total team effort, including the staff.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:44 am to memphis tiger
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This is the problem with you guys that can't get your lips off of O's jock.
And that’s the point an idiot like you can’t understand . Just because I don’t talk shite about O doesn’t mean I like him . If the players love their coach and want to go to war with him than support the whole team you dumb arse . Just like Les was carried off the field for the A&M game the players didn’t care what people like you thought . They knew besides some bad performances that Les was their coach and they loved him sincerely and was they were going to give their all every Saturday .
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