re: For everyone blaming CPM for pulling Bouman Sunday, please read this

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I dont need to read anything. To yank a guy who had 62 pitches and had given up two hits with out even letting him see the mound in the 7th is dumb.

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I usually defer to coaches who get paid to do what they do and know the kids much better than our fans, but it's hard to argue with the logic of this point. It was a must win game and Bouman was doing great...why mess with that? Over coaching in my humble opinion.

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Mainieri kept pulling Bouman before he could learn if he could trust him in the late innings

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This is what I've been arguing the whole time.

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Yes he was worried about extending a guy who had no experience going that deep into a game and in such a pressure situation.

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Who also, in his and his pitching coach's, opinions didn't have the stuff to run through a line up 3 or 4 times. They also had a lot of confidence (rightfully so) in the bullpen that had been performing at an extremely high level recently and had a strong hand in helping them get where they were. There is nothing wrong with thinking a pitcher that can't break 85 and doesn't have a single swing and miss pitch can't run through a lineup 3 times in a 1-0 game and that your bullpen, that has performed very well recently, could run through the lineup one time without faltering.

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He already said "we couldn't ask any more of him"

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The f*ck you can't.

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What I would really like to know is if Bouman came out in the top of the 7th inning with a 1-0 lead and having thrown 62 pitches got a ground ball to the second baseman on the first pitch of the inning and it was booted. So there is a man on first with no outs and he is at 63 pitches. The next pitch he throws gets hit into the bleachers in left field and LSU is now down 2-1 and he is at 64 pitches and then PM takes him out.

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We would still be disappointed the offense did not give Bouman run support up to that point.

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No, I would not. That is also not the point I'm trying to make here.

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Right, sure you wouldn't. No one ever complains about such things on the Rant.

Look, I know what you're point is:

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Because he'd never trusted him entering the game to give them any more. I would've definitely asked more of him.

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That doesn't make it a good point.

Maybe he never trusted him to go that late in the game because him and Dunn have spent hours upon hours upon hours watching the kid pitch and know how good his stuff is and don't trust him to face hitters that many times before it starts to go South. It was 1-0. Wouldn't take very long for it to go South enough to surrender that lead.

PM is criticized for leaving pitchers in too long on a weekly basis and now the ONE time he takes a pitcher out with a low pitch everyone flips their tone and complains that he took him out too soon. This place is so funny.

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We would still be disappointed the offense did not give Bouman run support up to that point.

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I definitely think this was an issue. The worst problem was leaving in McCune too long.

The second problem in this game was not being able to score enough runs and take advantage of certain situations like in the first inning when they had runners on first and third with one out for their cleanup hitter.

Bouman being taken out too early was not even on the radar when compared to the other issues during the course of the game.

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Yes, I just think this place is littered with retards that look to complain about anything and everything that is done the second LSU loses a game in any sport. No matter what the situation. That's why I made up a hypothetical about Bouman giving up 2 runs in the 7th, because I know this place would have threads on the first page bitching about the opposite of what you guys are complaining about.

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What do you expect after a season ending loss that could've easily been prevented? People were calling the McCune meltdown the minute he got in the game because we've seen it before. People weren't just making shite up.

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Instead of complaining that a pitcher that had never gone through a lineup 3 full times in his LSU career got taken out too early, why don't you complain about our inability to hit a fly ball with runners on first and third and 1 out in the first inning?

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We can go there but that didn't blow a 4 run lead in the 8th.

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What do you expect after a season ending loss that could've easily been prevented?

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And you have no idea that leaving Bouman in would have prevented the loss. No idea whatsoever. Just like I don't have any clue that leaving him in would have hurt LSU's chances of winning. I do, however, trust that Alan Dunn knows more about his pitcher than you do. And I do trust that they were not confident in his ability to continue going to through the UH lineup for a reason.

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We can go there but that didn't blow a 4 run lead in the 8th.

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If that makes you feel better sure. What was the score after 9 innings though? 4-4? Yeah if McMullen hits a fly ball in the bottom of the first inning, we win the baseball game regardless of any pitching move that you think was questionable.

Additionally, the coaching staff may have felt more comfortable sending Bouman out for the 7th with a 2 run lead as opposed to a 1 run lead.

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Why is nobody mentioning the fact that LSU had 3 innings to manufacture 1 run to win the game, and then an additional chance to manufacture 1 run to tie the game, but never did so.

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Because we shouldn't have needed a run.