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Football experts: explain the covered receiver call yesterday
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:21 am
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:21 am
I understand the penalty, but I always assumed that it was a penalty because it would otherwise be too easy for the offense to disguise a receiver by lining him up adjacent to the blockers. Correct me if I’m wrong, but both receivers were lined up wide, so there’s no attempt to deceive - there’re obviously both there as receivers and not line blockers. What’s the reasoning for the penalty in that specific formation?
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:26 am to TDlurker
They cant both be on the line
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:28 am to The Godfather
Right, but he’s asking WHY does that rule exist in the first place?
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:29 am to St8lyOaks
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This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:29 am to The Godfather
quote:No shite. Did you even bother reading?
They cant both be on the line
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:35 am to St8lyOaks
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WHY does that rule exist in the first place?
The primary reason is to limit the number of eligible receivers. The rule states that AT LEAST 7 players must be on the line of scrimmage, but only the players at each end are eligible receivers. If you’re not on the end then you must be in the backfield to be eligible (i.e. off the line of scrimmage).
The rule was put in so the offense couldn’t send random lineman out for a pass. It would be impossible for the defense to cover everybody.
This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 11:36 am
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:38 am to TDlurker
I believe it was to prevent disguising a receiver, as you say.
Must have 7 on LOS; however, there is no limit (can have more than 7), but when there is more than 7, only the outside wide guys are eligible receiver and the receivers on LOS who are not wide are ineligible.
If receiver steps back (no longer LOS), they are eligible again. Can' have more than 4 off LOS.
Must have 7 on LOS; however, there is no limit (can have more than 7), but when there is more than 7, only the outside wide guys are eligible receiver and the receivers on LOS who are not wide are ineligible.
If receiver steps back (no longer LOS), they are eligible again. Can' have more than 4 off LOS.
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:55 am to Turf Taint
quote:Thats exactly my question. Both receivers (the one who was “covered” and the one doing the “covering”) WERE wide. If both men are wide, why does it matter to the rules makers?
the receivers on LOS who are not wide are ineligible.
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:02 pm to KC Tiger
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The rule states that AT LEAST 7 players must be on the line of scrimmage, but only the players at each end are eligible receivers
I thought it was can't have more than 4 in the backfield?
So if you did something dumb (6 on the line and 4 in the backfield) it isn't a penalty.
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:10 pm to Turf Taint
Thanks for the video, but doesn’t answer my question. Using your video: Why is player #8 on the LOS a penalty? What’s the Reason it’s a penalty? I logically understand why #1 is a penalty - he’s a receiver disguised as a blocker. But player #8 is NOT a blocker, and is clearly a receiver, whether he’s on the LOS or not. What’s the REASON that’s considered “covered” in that specific formation?
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:20 pm to TDlurker
So defense can identify eligible receivers
Not that complicated
Happens all the time from peewee to NFL
Not that complicated
Happens all the time from peewee to NFL
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:35 pm to berniemoore
quote:Doesn’t the fact that he’s out wide do that? If you’re out wide, what else are you? That’s my question.
So defense can identify eligible receivers
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:38 pm to TDlurker
No2 reciever was on the line and so was no1....no2 is ineligible to recieve a pass. He can only block. When announcer showed it, they were showing the wrong side tbw...it was on the bottom where 11 was lined up...
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:40 pm to TDlurker
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Thats exactly my question. Both receivers (the one who was “covered” and the one doing the “covering”) WERE wide. If both men are wide, why does it matter to the rules makers
It’s a rule that’s why
Several in this thread have explained the rule
Just because you don’t like it or don’t understand it, doesn’t make it less of a rule.
It doesn’t have to make sense. There are tons or completely arbitrary rules in every sport. That’s it. No need to perseverate on it.
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:41 pm to St8lyOaks
quote:because it would be like a tackle being able to release when he is lined up inside of a tight end who is on the line of scrimmage lol. It's a rule that allows the defense a fair alignment/responsibilities before the snap.
Right, but he’s asking WHY does that rule exist in the first place?
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:46 pm to TDlurker
quote:the alignment of 8 isn't a penalty unless he releases downfield in a pass route, if he stalk blocks on a running play, it's legal.
Why is player #8 on the LOS a penalty
Posted on 10/17/21 at 1:38 pm to TDlurker
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Doesn’t the fact that he’s out wide do that? If you’re out wide, what else are you? That’s my question.
No. I think you’re assigning the name of the person’s position to define alignment rules, and alignment rules don’t have those distinctions between a “ receiver” or “guard” or “center.”
Posted on 10/17/21 at 1:46 pm to TDlurker
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Doesn’t the fact that he’s out wide do that?
No, TDLurker, it does not. A team can line up with just a center and a QB and the other 9 players lined up wide. If you had your way all 9 would be eligible receivers.
Posted on 10/17/21 at 1:47 pm to KC Tiger
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he primary reason is to limit the number of eligible receivers. The rule states that AT LEAST 7 players must be on the line of scrimmage, but only the players at each end are eligible receivers. If you’re not on the end then you must be in the backfield to be eligible (i.e. off the line of scrimmage).
The rule was put in so the offense couldn’t send random lineman out for a pass. It would be impossible for the defense to cover everybody.
Its a stupid rule. The only non eligible receivers are the center,two guards, and two tackles.Everyone else is eligible. Who gives a fawk if they are covered or not covered. If the defense cant distinguish between the eligible and non eligible receivers then shame on them. Now what if that big 2nd string tackle cones in to play TE. Well the official will let the defense know hey #78 is eligible. Once again its up to the defense to know whose eligible.
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